2025/26 Beto

But again, if we splurge out on a 50mil striker, do we get Grealish? Do you think a 50mil forward wants to join us or sit on Chelseas bench?

We've prioritized a frankly awful midfield and winger situation this summer and it'll take time. Beto showed enough under Moyes that he can do a job this season.
Your boy Chris Wood cost 12m.
NSNO Chris Wood isn't good enough for us but DCL should be leading our line and is waiting for offers from Arsenal 🙃
DCL is clearly finished, I dont think I've mentioned him once since he left.
 

Your boy Chris Wood cost 12m.

DCL is clearly finished, I dont think I've mentioned him once since he left.
And we turned our noses up at 12mil and he's a one in 3 striker (I think his record is slightly better than that).

DCL wasn't finished when he was our number 9 but he was on a pedestal. Thats all im saying. Beto clearly isn't going to win us trophies but he's fine for a boring mid table season which is probably what this will be. We tried for better like Delap, top strikers are in demand and Everton are not.
 
And we turned our noses up at 12mil and he's a one in 3 striker (I think his record is slightly better than that).

DCL wasn't finished when he was our number 9 but he was on a pedestal. Thats all im saying. Beto clearly isn't going to win us trophies but he's fine for a boring mid table season which is probably what this will be. We tried for better like Delap, top strikers are in demand and Everton are not.
Personally, I find it frustrating that we have a 40m Winger kissing pine every week and a gaping hole up top.

But anyway, ive promised myself I wont call him pony every week.
 
Personally, I find it frustrating that we have a 40m Winger kissing pine every week and a gaping hole up top.

But anyway, ive promised myself I wont call him pony every week.
If he's pony call him pony mate. I cant wait for Keggars to slip up in the derby personally, this run of 4 weeks of half competent defending has got people losing their minds over him.



(Joking).
 

I feel like the number of quality strikers has dropped. There’s Haaland out on his own and then Isak but after that you’re into what I would call very functional strikers like Watkins Delap Gyokeres and Wood who will get goals but are they really top strikers?

I remember a very average Chelsea team that had Gudjohnsen and Hasselbaink upfront. They’d both be held up as absolute geniuses if they were playing in this league. Yakubu would have teams falling over themselves to buy him. Berbatov and Keane at Spurs, how much for that pair now? Owen and Fowler? Shearer and Ferdinand. These weren’t even the players at the top teams either, they were a rung below the likes of Henry, Bergkamp Rooney, Van Nistlerooy.
Some of those you’re naming are a similar level to players around now but nostalgia paints a different picture. The games changed a bit and so a lot of the best goalscorers aren’t really classed as strikers as such, but the number of people scoring 10 or 15 or whatever is similar to what it’s always been.
 

Thank you for speaking sense. People constantly saying 'we need a proven goalscorer right now!' and it's like...for what? All the trophies we're competing for this season?

We did the smart thing for once which was instead buy a young striker with a high ceiling who can contribute enough now but can grow into a Europa League quality striker in a couple years (round about the time we should need one ideally).
"Contribute enough now" Your avin a laff! Predicted at start, the guy won"t make it in the Prem. Looks a nervous wreck and doesnt know what's hit him moving here. He's not a kid. Been kicking a ball since 6yrs old. A signing that should be hitting the ground running! Need a striker NOW not in a couple of years time. Scouting disaster and I think Moyes knows it now.
 
And we turned our noses up at 12mil and he's a one in 3 striker (I think his record is slightly better than that).

DCL wasn't finished when he was our number 9 but he was on a pedestal. Thats all im saying. Beto clearly isn't going to win us trophies but he's fine for a boring mid table season which is probably what this will be. We tried for better like Delap, top strikers are in demand and Everton are not.
Lets face it if Chris Wood came here originally we would all be hating him too.

"Typical Dyche player"
"All he does is score"
"Doesn't track back enough"
"I don't like his face"

etc etc.
 
I feel like the number of quality strikers has dropped. There’s Haaland out on his own and then Isak but after that you’re into what I would call very functional strikers like Watkins Delap Gyokeres and Wood who will get goals but are they really top strikers?

I remember a very average Chelsea team that had Gudjohnsen and Hasselbaink upfront. They’d both be held up as absolute geniuses if they were playing in this league. Yakubu would have teams falling over themselves to buy him. Berbatov and Keane at Spurs, how much for that pair now? Owen and Fowler? Shearer and Ferdinand. These weren’t even the players at the top teams either, they were a rung below the likes of Henry, Bergkamp Rooney, Van Nistlerooy.

i mean you’ve picked out some of the very best the league has had to offer there, of course most of the current crop don’t compare

i think essentially back in the 90s and early 00s every side played 442, and the strikers were what most sides built their team around. therefore it was easier for strikers to get a game compared to now as there were two places in each team rather than one. in the 90s you’d have 40 strikers playing regularly in the league now you have 20, so the sample size is a lot smaller.


it was also easier for a striker with flaws in their game to succeed and play. for example, the likes of Owen, Defoe, Phillips werent going to physically challenge centre halves for a loose ball or a header, werent the best at holding up the ball or linking play, but were incredibly fast and good poachers. they had the likes of Heskey, Crouch, Berbatov, Niall Quinn etc to win flick ons, to challenge defenders, to do the dirty work, link the play etc. Those 3 mentioned I doubt could play as a modern day 9 in the premier league if you threw them in now. owen and defoe would probably be left forwards of the style of Rashford or Gordon.

so yes i agree there are less star strikers in the league now, but i don’t think the quality has necessarily diminished just the game is different

thinking about another position - i don’t think there’s a centre half in the league who isn't comfortable with the ball at their feet, even Michael Keane is capable of spreading diagonals right to Grealish’s feet, whereas between 1998 and 2013 it was essentially just Rio Ferdinand and John Stones who could play out from the back
 
"Contribute enough now" Your avin a laff! Predicted at start, the guy won"t make it in the Prem. Looks a nervous wreck and doesnt know what's hit him moving here. He's not a kid. Been kicking a ball since 6yrs old. A signing that should be hitting the ground running! Need a striker NOW not in a couple of years time. Scouting disaster and I think Moyes knows it now.
Literally what are you talking about. Amazing work to have every sentence be incorrect in a different way
 

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