The Good Morning Thread

[bluestevon]

Wait a minute, don't you defend Putin.

How many fathers has his invasion murdered in Ukraine?

Probably less than Blair, Bush, Obama managed in various wars mate. Or less than mr green screen has either.

I'd feel abhorred if anyone stuck a bullet through any of their necks either.

Anyways post a January rumour mate, more your scene.

 

[Rita_Poon]

I've zero idea if he was it was not a 'good man', his opinion on Israel I definitely do not agree with, but if that's the yardstick let's stick a bullet through 40% of the US, he'll I disagree with a lot of what I'd call radical opinions so can off those too bring happy in the process apparently.

in the same sentence no less.

 

[Connor]

you clearly considered Kirk almost evil as such.

Yes, racists, anti-LGBTQIA+, and pro-genocidal people are evil

 

[bluestevon]

in the same sentence no less.

I know people who are probably Israel, probably Palestine - probably hams some, probably Russia and probably Ukraine. Not one I'd describe as evil mate, and most are actually good people with depending on your viewpoint either a lack of knowledge or just a plain wrong opinion.

There's a modern tendency to try to stick a definitive label on absolutely everything as an extreme or place it into a very restrictive category.

 

[Rita_Poon]

I know people who are probably Israel, probably Palestine - probably hams some, probably Russia and probably Ukraine. Not one I'd describe as evil mate, and most are actually good people with depending on your viewpoint either a lack of knowledge or just a plain wrong opinion.

There's a modern tendency to try to stick a definitive label on absolutely everything as an extreme or place it into a very restrictive category.

The means to so casually compare Ukraine and russian actions is a very worrying downplaying of facts, that serves only to encourage further violent imperial conquest. We'd had enough of enablers here when we kicked boris and may and truss into the bin. The modern tendency to cosy up to the wealthiest megalomaniac and abandon all decency and morals and behaviours is a very worrying current trend. Still... "I'm alright Jack!".

 

[bluestevon]

Yes, racists, anti-LGBTQIA+, and pro-genocidal people are evil

From your perspective and how to decide to categorize a person's views then yeah I guess they are.

Was he racist - dunno, he was anti immigration, anti DEI for sure though. And argued against the victim culture.

Yup he was firm in the a man or a woman thing, but that's the entire population of the world pretty much 25 years back - obviously you have always been enlightened on the shades of the rainbow ofc.

Pro genocide.- he supported Israel - with that comes a whitewashing of what they do, it's the see no evil idea. Was he sniping kids on Gaza, sending funds to the IDF, or was he arguing in a political forum as you're supposed to do on a democracy.

Again I'll state you can label most of the Congress and senate as pro genocide and thus evil then too

 

[Connor]

Was he racist - dunno,

Please stop posting on this matter, Ste

 

[Goat]

Please stop posting on this matter, Ste

People trying to argue he wasn't a complete and utter POS is kinda wild.

 

[Rita_Poon]

People trying to argue he wasn't a complete and utter POS is kinda wild.

It's strange, there seems to have been a surge in solo accounts taking obtuse stands recently.

 

[bluestevon]

Please stop posting on this matter, Ste

Yeah I've seen those debates mate, heard him at both the Oxford and Cambridge uni forums too. The view it out there for sure, but it is a part of the wider point he often made about the lack of father's in black households and the almost glorifying of certain lifestyles through certain mediums - rap etc.

Both which are never shown in abridged clips. Both which put an out there statement into a different context.

 

[Goat]

It's strange, there seems to have been a surge in solo accounts taking obtuse stands recently.

Trump makes them feel like they can say and do anything, as Charlie boy just found out, actions have consequences.

 

[Goat]

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Oh god.

 

[chicoazul]

Authoritarians aren’t the good guys friends. History has taught us this repeatedly, and painfully. If you find a billionaire businessman or political leader who has changed their maximum term speaks to you then chances are you’re 1) thick or 2) indoctrinated.

I have zero love for the neo libs who’ve too long high jacked national leadership and turned it into corporate government, but populists, shy and not so shy fascists, are not the answer.

Why not give socialist policy a go lads? It works really well in some countries.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Yeah I've seen those debates mate, heard him at both the Oxford and Cambridge uni forums too. The view it out there for sure, but it is a part of the wider point he often made about the lack of father's in black households and the almost glorifying of certain lifestyles through certain mediums - rap etc.

Both which are never shown in abridged clips. Both which put an out there statement into a different context.

Changing topic, what's the story in Russia re: the Poland blowing up bits of plywood and Styrofoam over their airspace?