Original thinkers thread


Personally I've never been an advocate of collateral damage of human life, whether it be covid, gaza, climate change or gun ownership. I suppose if someone was such an advocate and not just in their belief system but because it benefitted them financially, then you make be able to see why folk could oppose violence at the same time as not getting all teary eyed if such a person became a function of the collateral damage they openly embraced.
 
If we’re meant to elevate our finest minds in society to lead over us and they cannot safeguard essentials such as security, food, opportunity, decency, then we are doing it all wrong. Self and special interests should be held accountable accordingly.

As we learned the hard way fascism is never the answer. Neither is communism or other types of authoritarianism.
 
As an inclusive community on here there’s space for all. I noticed that some lads with critical thinking thoughts sometimes feel marginalised on here and that’s not right, lest we become an echo chamber.

Even if it does confuse me slightly that these original thinkers have almost identical thoughts and beliefs inline with other original thinkers we must make a space for all. This is not the place to level accusations such as painfully awkward galaxy brained edgelord contrarians or shy Nazis please. Sincere compassion for others separates a decent society from savages after all.

Welcome to the original thinkers thread.

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Personally I've never been an advocate of collateral damage of human life, whether it be covid, gaza, climate change or gun ownership. I suppose if someone was such an advocate and not just in their belief system but because it benefitted them financially, then you make be able to see why folk could oppose violence at the same time as not getting all teary eyed if such a person became a function of the collateral damage they openly embraced.



Yep. On one hand, I dread the sort of escalation this might bring to an already volatile situation. And on a more basic note, a man has died and left two kids behind.

On the other, that same man showed zero sympathy for the thousands of men, women and children being bombed to death on the other side of the world (and openly endorsed it at times). He has previously stated that death is an acceptable byproduct of freedom while advocating the mass proliferation of the very thing he was killed with. He even said that empathy was a weakness.

So the cynic might say that celebrating this profound demonstration of 2nd amendment freedom and not empathising with his family would be what Charlie Kirk would have wanted. For me, while I don't care enough about him to feel anything about his demise, I can definitely appreciate the irony of him dying as a clear result of the polarised society that he helped cultivate, exploit and profit from.
 

Lets be clear violence is never the answer.
My first thoughts on seeing the news coverage today in the USA was that the shooter (as yet unidentified) was a pretty good shot to hit his target in the neck with one shot from a rooftop some distance away shooting into a sunken pit. That must be someone with proffesional training, surely. Sounds like the start of a conspiracy theory that would be propogated by.............
 

Lets be clear violence is never the answer.
My first thoughts on seeing the news coverage today in the USA was that the shooter (as yet unidentified) was a pretty good shot to hit his target in the neck with one shot from a rooftop some distance away shooting into a sunken pit. That must be someone with proffesional training, surely. Sounds like the start of a conspiracy theory that would be propogated by.............
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Yep. On one hand, I dread the sort of escalation this might bring to an already volatile situation. And on a more basic note, a man has died and left two kids behind.

On the other, that same man showed zero sympathy for the thousands of men, women and children being bombed to death on the other side of the world (and openly endorsed it at times). He has previously stated that death is an acceptable byproduct of freedom while advocating the mass proliferation of the very thing he was killed with. He even said that empathy was a weakness.

So the cynic might say that celebrating this profound demonstration of 2nd amendment freedom and not empathising with his family would be what Charlie Kirk would have wanted. For me, while I don't care enough about him to feel anything about his demise, I can definitely appreciate the irony of him dying as a clear result of the polarised society that he helped cultivate, exploit and profit from.

He was a mixed emotions kinda guy, I agreed certainly on certain of his points (family values and the importance of a family structure has somehow become almost treated as a bad thing) - disagreed strongly on others (you can even be pro Israel without supporting everything they do when it's clearly beyond the pale), on some yeah I agreed but he took it too far (abortion, DEI, immigration being issues that need genuine debate).

But the moment people cheer on the murder of a person and even herald it for holding views is the moment everyone should be scared of. End of the day at worse he was a guy on the internet with zero actual power - not elected and with a young family.

That apparently is enough for a certain section of people to take to the internet for their 15 seconds of tiktok fame letting everyone know how happy they are or spouting bile aimed at his family and daughters. I guess to show how liberal and goodly they really are.

The ironic thing for me is the same ones doing so try to pretend they are moral themselves - usually seen by their support for Palestine - now that is a cruel irony.
 
He was a mixed emotions kinda guy, I agreed certainly on certain of his points (family values and the importance of a family structure has somehow become almost treated as a bad thing) - disagreed strongly on others (you can even be pro Israel without supporting everything they do when it's clearly beyond the pale), on some yeah I agreed but he took it too far (abortion, DEI, immigration being issues that need genuine debate).

But the moment people cheer on the murder of a person and even herald it for holding views is the moment everyone should be scared of. End of the day at worse he was a guy on the internet with zero actual power - not elected and with a young family.

That apparently is enough for a certain section of people to take to the internet for their 15 seconds of tiktok fame letting everyone know how happy they are or spouting bile aimed at his family and daughters. I guess to show how liberal and goodly they really are.

The ironic thing for me is the same ones doing so try to pretend they are moral themselves - usually seen by their support for Palestine - now that is a cruel irony.
Yeah, nobody is surprised you support these kind of people.
 

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