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Manchester United

They played well v arsenal and didn’t deserve to lose.

A point at Fulham isn’t a disaster either.

This will either galvanise them and give them a wake up call or they’ll completely fall to bits and players will start throwing the towel in.

Hopefully the latter
 

Being born and raised in the same city as Man U (Salford) I've kept a soft spot for them. Despite that I'm really enjoying watching what is now a big Sky brand utterly imploding. It gives us hope that maybe cash isn't the be all and end all.
 
Toffe3m4n said:
In all seriousness - how do you fix a problem like Man United at this point?

They've hired some genuinely decent managers over the last few years and none of them have worked out. You feel like they just need to try and go right back to basics at this point..
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TBF it is probably easy to fix the club - they just need to run it competently - but the problem is that this would require a complete purge of the leadership and the football side of things.

Appoint a manager who uses tactics based on what the squad is capable of, give him until the end of the season to set a standard and then let him banish whoever doesnt meet that standard. Klippety did this at the RS and it was the making of them but United havent done this since Ferguson retired.
 
Thomasc said:
They played well v arsenal and didn’t deserve to lose.

A point at Fulham isn’t a disaster either.

This will either galvanise them and give them a wake up call or they’ll completely fall to bits and players will start throwing the towel in.
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They absolutely deserved to lose against Arsenal and they'd beaten Fulham away every season for a decade prior to this.
 
Seathestars said:
Lol Sacked in the morning
Actually I hope they keep him, terrible manager and it's quite something watching their demise
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Thing is, he's really not. But United are beyond salvation, absolutely us a couple of seasons back but on steroids.

Onana is a case in point, signed ahead of the better shot stopper de Gea because Onana was supposed to help them play out from the back. Setting aside the flawed tactic that playing out from the back has become, you can't constantly keep reinventing yourselves without it turning into the confused mess we're seeing.

I'm with you on the demise, it's top notch entertainment.
 

Bohemian Toffee said:
Thing is, he's really not. But United are beyond salvation, absolutely us a couple of seasons back but on steroids.

Onana is a case in point, signed ahead of the better shot stopper de Gea because Onana was supposed to help them play out from the back. Setting aside the flawed tactic that playing out from the back has become, you can't constantly keep reinventing yourselves without it turning into the confused mess we're seeing.

I'm with you on the demise, it's top notch entertainment.
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Football has eaten itself.

"Being good with your feet" is now a shibboleth, so goalkeepers end up like James Trafford last week looking like Coco the Clown. The problem with fetishing possession at all costs in all positions is that sooner or later the opposition becomes brilliant at closing you down. If a judicious hoof up the pitch or out of play is taboo, then the circus is your next destination as Trafford found to his cost...
 
Drico said:
Football has eaten itself.

"Being good with your feet" is now a shibboleth, so goalkeepers end up like James Trafford last week looking like Coco the Clown. The problem with fetishing possession at all costs in all positions is that sooner or later the opposition becomes brilliant at closing you down. If a judicious hoof up the pitch or out of play is taboo, then the circus is your next destination as Trafford found to his cost...
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I'd still prefer my goalkeeper to actually do goalkeeper things like stop shots or claim crosses. This seems to not matter anymore.
 

tsubaki said:
TBF it is probably easy to fix the club - they just need to run it competently - but the problem is that this would require a complete purge of the leadership and the football side of things.

Appoint a manager who uses tactics based on what the squad is capable of, give him until the end of the season to set a standard and then let him banish whoever doesnt meet that standard. Klippety did this at the RS and it was the making of them but United havent done this since Ferguson retired.
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A tick that has bore so deeply in requires major surgery to remove.
 
Drico said:
Football has eaten itself.

"Being good with your feet" is now a shibboleth, so goalkeepers end up like James Trafford last week looking like Coco the Clown. The problem with fetishing possession at all costs in all positions is that sooner or later the opposition becomes brilliant at closing you down. If a judicious hoof up the pitch or out of play is taboo, then the circus is your next destination as Trafford found to his cost...
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Yeah, the attraction of playing from goalkicks was, in part, that it was relatively easy to simulate in training and work on. But, pressing developed really quickly, so that pressing shape has evolved to squeezing any advantage that existed into becoming obsolete.

Man City are one of the few teams that play from the back that managed to score more with four passes inside twenty yards from their goal than they conceded. They might, actually, be the only one. It's become a mantra, an inflexible "identity" that is massively over-rated.

From my experience, coaching pressing is much easier than developing the technique to control, pass, move to effectively sustain the "play out at all cost".

Moving the ball quickly from back to front, winning the ball higher up the pitch, controlling the area either side of the half way line are all much more useful to work on with a struggling team. Forest, as much as it pains me to say it, have done a really good job of becoming an efficient, effective side.
 

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