Confirmed Signing Tyler Dibling

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Everton should definitely walk away from any deal that includes a decent size sell on fee.

Resale value has to be the priority for every signing we make, particularly when its already high risk for what is hoped potential.

We've got to start increasing the received;

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That looks bad tbh.

But we have had good sell ons over the years , this summer was always going to be different with the amount of players out of contract and leaving the club.
Obvs that should never been allowed to happen.
Moshiri turning the taps off was a major in the predicament we ended up with.
 

Our pull power, bidding ability and needs are all very different to Spurs, especially now they have gotten rid of the fat aussie and got a proper manager in.

There has still been a profile of player that we are looking long term, but we have to marry that with some big short term issues and deal with the fact that we may not have the resources to solve all those issues or the solution may not be available.

We should have picked a core of players for say the next 3 years and bought younger players around them.

Then the final cherry may have been Grealish for example.

Everton should definitely walk away from any deal that includes a decent size sell on fee.

Resale value has to be the priority for every signing we make, particularly when its already high risk for what is hoped potential.

We've got to start increasing the received;

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We also shouldnt be signing players that wont be potentially profitable.
 
IF Southampton won't sanction the sale until the find a replacement and spurs sign Dibling as a result of Eze going to Arsenal. Is that Evertons fault?
Not exactly, if that's the situation. Which I'm not sure it is.

But I'm less interested in the specifics of Dibling than I am the RW in general. If we fail to close this one for whatever reason, and then are left with a week in this window - about the fifth in a row we've needed a player in this position - without looking at all close to signing anybody then yes, that is Everton's fault.
 

The problem is that Southampton want both premium fee and hefty sell-on.

You can pay over the odds for a youngster because of potential, but any sell-on will eat out of your upside. Lower the price and get the sell-on you want, or cash in now and get a reasonable sell-on. You can't have both.
Nothing at all to say they can't have both. They wanted £100m last year and still want a hefty transfer fee and as much of a guarantee of more in the future.

Not sure where this rule has come from about one or the other? It's entirely up to them, and it's if we think the deal can work.

I suggested that we'd be happier paying less as a straight fee and more of a future 'success' % because it's much more risk averse right now.

Paying more on a straight fee with less future % is much more risky now, but would reap greater rewards if the risk works out.
 
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Not exactly, if that's the situation. Which I'm not sure it is.

But I'm less interested in the specifics of Dibling than I am the RW in general. If we fail to close this one for whatever reason, and then are left with a week in this window - about the fifth in a row we've needed a player in this position - without looking at all close to signing anybody then yes, that is Everton's fault.
Well none of us know the situation which is my main point. But if an agreement was made and we're waiting for Southampton to get a replacement and spurs come in because they failed to get Eze it's totally not our fault.
 
Everton should definitely walk away from any deal that includes a decent size sell on fee.

Resale value has to be the priority for every signing we make, particularly when its already high risk for what is hoped potential.

We've got to start increasing the received;

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In fairness we could have sold Branthwaite for 70-80 mill or Pickford and these figures would look better now. I agree we do need to up the received fees but we’re one of the few clubs that have actually turned transfer profits in recent seasons. When Everton sell they tend to sell high but we’ve not been good at getting decent fees for our youth players or deadwood.
 
Looking all rather silly business now.

The lad himself could have forced the issue weeks ago. So he himself can't to bothered.

Must be dozens of playets across Europe that could do a job on the right wing in EPL...
 

In fairness we could have sold Branthwaite for 70-80 mill or Pickford and these figures would look better now. I agree we do need to up the received fees but we’re one of the few clubs that have actually turned transfer profits in recent seasons. When Everton sell they tend to sell high but we’ve not been good at getting decent fees for our youth players or deadwood.

Selling has always been a part of the game, never more so than right now.

Every club, particularly our level at the moment - have to sell, and sell well.

Our sales overall the last decade has been piss poor - whenever we've spent money on players, we've very rarely sold.
 
Selling has always been a part of the game, never more so than right now.

Every club, particularly our level at the moment - have to sell, and sell well.

Our sales overall the last decade has been piss poor - whenever we've spent money on players, we've very rarely sold.

Lukaku - 80 mill PL record pre-Neymar
Richarlison - 60 mill
Onana - 60 mill
Stones - 50 mill record fee for a teenager at the time
Gordon - 40 mill
Digne -30 mill
Gana - 30 mill
Moise Kean - 30 mill
Iwobi -20 mill
Vlasic 20 mill
Lookman 15 mill
Barkley 15 mill


There’s one or two in there that should have gone for more, and the timing of the Neymar deal after we sold Lukaku was annoying, but that’s not a bad record for big sales.

The problem has more been the likes of Gomes DCL Doucoure Bernard Mina etc. who just ran off the end of their contract without receiving a fee. A lot of that is down to previous recruitment mistakes of putting players on high wages then they get injured and no one wants them so they stay too long.
 
Selling has always been a part of the game, never more so than right now.

Every club, particularly our level at the moment - have to sell, and sell well.

Our sales overall the last decade has been piss poor - whenever we've spent money on players, we've very rarely sold.

Need good players to be able to sell them, sadly :lol:
 
Lukaku - 80 mill PL record pre-Neymar
Richarlison - 60 mill
Onana - 60 mill
Stones - 50 mill record fee for a teenager at the time
Gordon - 40 mill
Digne -30 mill
Gana - 30 mill
Moise Kean - 30 mill
Iwobi -20 mill
Vlasic 20 mill
Lookman 15 mill
Barkley 15 mill


There’s one or two in there that should have gone for more, and the timing of the Neymar deal after we sold Lukaku was annoying, but that’s not a bad record for big sales.

The problem has more been the likes of Gomes DCL Doucoure Bernard Mina etc. who just ran off the end of their contract without receiving a fee. A lot of that is down to previous recruitment mistakes of putting players on high wages then they get injured and no one wants them so they stay too long.

Hang on...

You're actually saying Everton have bought/sold well the past decade?

If you want to play top trumps, I'll win. Comfortably. I'll just go and get my Bolasie, Sigurdsson, Schneiderlin, Williams, Klaassen, Tosun, Walcott etc etc cards. What ruined Everton is getting zilch back on too many players we paid a good fee for.
 
Hang on...

You're actually saying Everton have bought/sold well the past decade?

If you want to play top trumps, I'll win. Comfortably. I'll just go and get my Bolasie, Sigurdsson, Schneiderlin, Williams, Klaassen, Tosun, Walcott etc etc cards. What ruined Everton is getting zilch back on too many players we paid a good fee for.
Lots of those players we’re bought at an age we knew we wouldn’t get anything back.
 

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