Confirmed Signing Tyler Dibling

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KevMirallas said:
I'm not crying incompetence, but there has very obviously been a very public game of brinkmanship going on with this transfer. If this whole saga ends with another club buying Dibling for the deal Southampton wanted while Everton end up with nothing, then Everton very clearly haven't won that game, have they?

I'm not convinced Spurs do end up with him FWIW, but their very involvement makes it a lot harder for Everton to gain any ground in negotiations. The best run at it they had was two weeks ago when nobody else was interested, but for whatever reason nothing happened then.

Also I'd be more inclined to give Everton the benefit of the doubt if this exact thing didn't happen almost every summer, always leaving us empty handed.
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We haven’t won but nor have we lost. Someone else paid a price that we wouldn’t. If we decide to pay the price Spurs are and he chooses Spurs then that’s a different matter. But it’s just business.
 

KevMirallas said:
I'm not crying incompetence, but there has very obviously been a very public game of brinkmanship going on with this transfer. If this whole saga ends with another club buying Dibling for the deal Southampton wanted while Everton end up with nothing, then Everton very clearly haven't won that game, have they?

I'm not convinced Spurs do end up with him FWIW, but their very involvement makes it a lot harder for Everton to gain any ground in negotiations. The best run at it they had was two weeks ago when nobody else was interested, but for whatever reason nothing happened then.

Also I'd be more inclined to give Everton the benefit of the doubt if this exact thing didn't happen almost every summer, always leaving us empty handed.
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We haven’t had a budget for years.
 
TheNinja said:
Sell on is only a factor if Dibling increases his value... If he does, it's likely because he's playing very well for us.

If we buy for 50m + 25% of profit and sell him for even £70m after a year, they get 5m. We get 65m with his book value at 40m.

Still a 25m book profit after a year with a modest increase in his value. I really don't see this as the issue. I think the issue is more them valuing him at more than we want to commit to paying. Future profit is a bonus.
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The problem is that Southampton want both premium fee and hefty sell-on.

You can pay over the odds for a youngster because of potential, but any sell-on will eat out of your upside. Lower the price and get the sell-on you want, or cash in now and get a reasonable sell-on. You can't have both.
 

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Evertonthat said:
If they want to spend £50M on him, then good luck to them.
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I'm pretty sure that when Tottenham sign him the people that did not want us to spend £50M on him will be shouting the loudest about our transfer team's incompetence.

And then of course he will tear up the Champions League and be worth £100M next season.
 

TheNinja said:
Sell on is only a factor if Dibling increases his value... If he does, it's likely because he's playing very well for us.

If we buy for 50m + 25% of profit and sell him for even £70m after a year, they get 5m. We get 65m with his book value at 40m.

Still a 25m book profit after a year with a modest increase in his value. I really don't see this as the issue. I think the issue is more them valuing him at more than we want to commit to paying. Future profit is a bonus.
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Just because it's a book profit doesn't mean it's sustainable business model. Ideally sales should recover what you paid for them. The amortisation is still a cost.

It's like you buying a car for 10k and selling it for 3k after 5 years, you wouldn't run around telling your mates you made a profit would you?
 

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