Bad ref decisions - for and against - season 2025/26


I've read that Neville and Carragher, both world class defenders and seasoned and impartial pundits, say it was a definite penalty so it must have been a penalty. I would disagree most strongly with their opinion and assessment.

The officials, particularly Kavanagh, are also inept cowards who were influenced by the atmosphere around them.
 
Thought it was harsh the decision but once the on field decision was made it was never going to get over turned by VAR.

True. But it would have been had it been for us.

How do I know?

Because we got this one overturned when dunk flew in and managed to make dcl stand on his foot which then brought him down:



And this one against utd:



And the two we did get, went to VAR and took ages for them to go through to see if there was a way of getting out of it.
 

True. But it would have been had it been for us.

How do I know?

Because we got this one overturned when dunk flew in and managed to make dcl stand on his foot which then brought him down:



And this one against utd:



And the two we did get, went to VAR and took ages for them to go through to see if there was a way of getting out of it.


I would have shouted Pens for both of them.
 
I feel that not giving this as an Everton corner yesterday, instead of playing on, thinking the ball hadn't crossed the line, was probably a bad decision.
In this sort of incident the VAR should have a word with the ref. I can see how the officials can miss this, the ref can`t see it and the linesman isn`t going to be able to see its across the line either.
 
It was a definitely penalty and I hope any similar instance is given as one when they occur in the same way throughout the season.

He blocked a shot on target, with his arm, below the shirt line, by leaning his entire body towards the shot. Just because his arms were in a natural position bears no relevance as he has physically moved towards the flight of the ball. He knew he was in trouble straight away. I'd fully expect them at the other end and fully expect it given against us.

Not giving the corner was a very bad decision and was so obvious to everyone apart from the ref and lino. A top 6 team gets a corner there every time, purely based on them appealing for it.
 

The only good thing about it was that Moyes moaned to the TV audience so it should apply pressure in our favour for the next big decision. Klopp, SAF and Wenger were masters at it.
Personally if it was at the Leeds end I would have fumed to have not been given it, I thought it was a pen.

My fume is the lack of consistency.
Look at the Palace Eze goal, I've seen that a billion times and a goal is always given, so much so that no one on here can honestly say they kew that was a rule. A free kick is scored against a scab 6 team and they pull and unknown rules out of their arse.
 
The only good thing about it was that Moyes moaned to the TV audience so it should apply pressure in our favour for the next big decision. Klopp, SAF and Wenger were masters at it.
Personally if it was at the Leeds end I would have fumed to have not been given it, I thought it was a pen.

My fume is the lack of consistency.
Look at the Palace Eze goal, I've seen that a billion times and a goal is always given, so much so that no one on here can honestly say they kew that was a rule. A free kick is scored against a scab 6 team and they pull and unknown rules out of their arse.

To be fair, I knew of a rule to prevent attacking players standing within a wall, but I didnt know if it being nobody within 1m. What if you run across it as the ball was being struck? Would that be disallowed. What if a player was pushed in? Disallowed goal? free kick? Is that open to interpretation?

On the pen, I absolutely would have shouted for it, probably screamed for it, but when you see it again you can admit you were wrong. There is nothing wrong with that.

We've got to this wierd place now where everybody is saying that his arm was in a natural position so its not a pen, but truth is, it probably isnt as he's trying to get it behind his back as they feel they have to as defenders, proven by the fact that all in the shot do the same. If his arm had been in a natural position it wouldn't have struck his arm in all likelihood.

However, thenref even admitted to him.that if his arm was down by his side, uts not a pen. So how do we go from that being said to the pen being given? We know what Tarkowski claimed had been said and we likely have recordings of it being said. Surely if the ref makes that claim as per his understanding of the rules then it simply cant stand. The ref doesn't look to have made the decision by himself and was given the decision by the liner, he's then told to hold by VAR, or has asked for a check. If he's not seen it or has a different view of it then why is he not being given the opportunity to view it for himself? His question to VAR should immediately be, did the ball strike his arm? Tarkowski has claimed his arm was by his side in a natural position, is this true?
 
The only good thing about it was that Moyes moaned to the TV audience so it should apply pressure in our favour for the next big decision. Klopp, SAF and Wenger were masters at it.
Personally if it was at the Leeds end I would have fumed to have not been given it, I thought it was a pen.

My fume is the lack of consistency.
Look at the Palace Eze goal, I've seen that a billion times and a goal is always given, so much so that no one on here can honestly say they kew that was a rule. A free kick is scored against a scab 6 team and they pull and unknown rules out of their arse.
Everyone should know that rule. Was brought in several years ago, was quite a stir when they did. They even enforce it at the lowest amateur levels.
 

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