Excuses, why?

Zatara said:
Moyes said he wanted 9 or 10 players.

Last season we signed 7 players with pennies to spend.

"It would not be possible" ?

Sorry, but you are wrong.

Anyway, thats not really the issue. The issue is that where we have players out of position and no natural players for 2 or 3 positions....those areas have been ignored.

Instead weve strengthened areas that were the lowest priority.
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Have those positions really been ignored? We have made several bids for both right mids and right backs. That doesn't sound like ignoring it to me. That sounds more like we couldn't agree a fee or the player chose a different club.

We have been unsuccessful in filling those positions for sure, but to say we have ignored them? Nonsense.
 

If you could change one thing about us, just one, what would it be? Nothing stupid like the transfers but something which has always bugged you.

Mine is, the grand old team song. The song in itself is fine but I hate the ‘we don’t care what the red side say’ bit. I think we have moved onto a new stadium, and I think this should have been changed to other lyrics.

We shouldn’t even mention Liverpool now. The fact that everyone sings ‘sh***’ aswell bugs me, rant over.
 
MondayHater said:
They haven’t been ignored though have they?

We have made three bids for Dibling and been very interested in the lad from Leicester.

RW and RB is a priority but if a signing for say GK or LB pop up as a good price then it makes sense to grab them while we can. It doesn’t mean we have forgotten about main places we need to fill but sometimes that’s just how things happen.

Man City spent loads of money and they didn’t in to the CL for a few seasons even with all the cash thrown about, so it doesn’t mean you can get everything done all at once. We may, for example, what Dibling as first choice, but if we can’t get him for the price we want we may get someone else for a few seasons instead to fill that role until the right player becomes available for that area.

It’s not football manager transfers take time.
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We had a RB + RW all set for Jan.

Moyes pulled the plug.

We had a bid of £27mil rejected for a player Southampton recently claimed to be valued at £100mil then £55mil.

There are plenty of players on the planet.

There was Jan - July to do the work.

WA Toffee said:
Have those positions really been ignored? We have made several bids for both right mids and right backs. That doesn't sound like ignoring it to me. That sounds more like we couldn't agree a fee or the player chose a different club.

We have been unsuccessful in filling those positions for sure, but to say we have ignored them? Nonsense.
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So youre saying Moyes has failed.
 

Your bang on there’s loads of players out there, but we don’t want just anyone.

We have finally got rid of a lot of deadwood at this club, people like Holgate etc who we had to pay part of his wages just to send them out on loan etc, so I just don’t want any player, and if the club take there time getting in the right RW and RB they will push this team to be better, not just a squad player, and get them for a good price then I am willing to wait for this and as long as that’s sorted by deadline day, while I would of rather had them as soon as the window had opened, I will still say I am happy with that.

I don’t want us to pay big money for a player who has no sell on value like we have done in the past. I have no doubt we could of paid the fee Southampton want for Dibling but that wouldn’t of made it a great deal.

I think we can only judge the window when it closes, it sucks that the season starts while it’s open but it is what it is. We are one of many clubs struggling with this.

But football is about opinions, yours maybe correct and mine maybe isn’t, but I can’t se e how anyone can judge a window before it has closed, which is when the time for excuses will be no more and we can see what we have as the dust settles.
 
MondayHater said:
Your bang on there’s loads of players out there, but we don’t want just anyone.

We have finally got rid of a lot of deadwood at this club, people like Holgate etc who we had to pay part of his wages just to send them out on loan etc, so I just don’t want any player, and if the club take there time getting in the right RW and RB they will push this team to be better, not just a squad player, and get them for a good price then I am willing to wait for this and as long as that’s sorted by deadline day, while I would of rather had them as soon as the window had opened, I will still say I am happy with that.

I don’t want us to pay big money for a player who has no sell on value like we have done in the past. I have no doubt we could of paid the fee Southampton want for Dibling but that wouldn’t of made it a great deal.

I think we can only judge the window when it closes, it sucks that the season starts while it’s open but it is what it is. We are one of many clubs struggling with this.

But football is about opinions, yours maybe correct and mine maybe isn’t, but I can’t se e how anyone can judge a window before it has closed, which is when the time for excuses will be no more and we can see what we have as the dust settles.
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A lot of sense there mate.

Would be nice to start a season on the front foot for once though - and a lot of that I think is on the back of early recruitment.
 
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GrandOldTeam said:
A lot of sense there mate.

Would be nice to start a season on the front foot for once though - and a lot of that I think is on the back of early recruitment.
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your bang on sir, the ammount of points I feel we have dropped early doors because we haven’t finished our squad in past seasons is just scary thinking about.

That being said, I don’t know if football transfers are harder now or what but a lot of clubs are feeling this pain. The amount of players we have signed this summer is very good when we think about it, it’s just a massive shame we have been left with so much work to do because of the total shambles our previous ownership left us in.

Hopefully we can get back to a decent squad this summer. Then our back office staff settle in and in the future seasons we can act quickly on the players we want.

It sucks because this club and fan base have been starved of success for to long, but the transfer team need time as they are only just in post. Hopefully this will be the last time this happens and we can progress quickly in the future, but I know we have thought this before, but so far so good I think.

When 777 were looming over us if you would of told me we would sign Jack Grealish in the future I would of assumed you meant when he was 70.
 

We're coming out of the lowest period the club has had in a long time, finally ending in an unprecedented dozen players leaving. At the same time we've had to bed in a new backroom staff.

Before the season starts we've brought in six players and made Alcaraz permanent. We have a good XI and bench for Monday, with more signings guaranteed.

A combination of an inflated market for certain types of players, the lack of any sales and a certain budget (though healthy considering the lack of sales) has made some positions tricky to buy for - but by the end of the window it'll all be sorted.

In the mean time, our new stadium is fantastic and we are finally looking up towards the top half of the table.
 
Bally1989 said:
Why is admitting Everton are poor in literally every department an issue for some.

Is it because they enjoy the dopamine rush of a like on the internet by someone called GOAT gives them?

Is it because admitting Everton are poor would mean they might have to do something other than happy clap?

If they do that are they worried they will get called Kopites?

Is being bad a badge of honour that they can boast about?

I really need to understand the psychological reasoning behind the constant excuse making in our fanbase.
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Bravo

This should be a case study in bait and caught fish. You got the Everton Dar's, Bedwetters, transfer merchants, Aggro hunters, Multis, big dogs, clique leaders, and the boss man.

All in less than 10 pages.

Thoroughly enjoyable read.
 
WA Toffee said:
Have those positions really been ignored? We have made several bids for both right mids and right backs. That doesn't sound like ignoring it to me. That sounds more like we couldn't agree a fee or the player chose a different club.

We have been unsuccessful in filling those positions for sure, but to say we have ignored them? Nonsense.
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Semantics, we haven’t signed a RW or RB.
 

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