Ranking Everton Managers This Century


What in sweet hell. Ancelotti over Moyes? Our fans are completely insane. Even Martinez was better than Ancelotti!
I'm not saying that he did a better job than Moyes Mark 1 in finishing 10th BUT it was the POSSIBILTY of change, some great moments
 

Moyes mark 1
Sean Dyche
Ancelotti
Martinez
Moyes mark 2
Allardyce
Silva
Smith
Benitez
Lampard
Koeman

Moyes mark 2 will climb higher if he kicks us further on this season.

I’ve based this on what the managers did with the resources they had. I think Silva Koeman and Ancelotti got an unbelievable amount of resources that other managers didn’t have and I don’t think any of them really did that much with it.
Fair play for putting your ranking up to be shot at - but how could you possibly put a kopite anywhere but bottom?
 

  1. Moyes (mark 1)
  2. Martinez
  3. Silva
  4. Moyes (mark 2)
  5. Ancelotti
  6. Koeman
  7. Smith
  8. Dyche
  9. Allardyce
  10. Benitez
  11. Lampard

Lampard was certainly one of the more likeable, but my god was he bad.
 
Fair play for putting your ranking up to be shot at - but how could you possibly put a kopite anywhere but bottom?

Mainly because Koeman absolutely destroyed this club.

He was given a war chest by Moshiri and on top of that had the money from Lukaku Barkley and Stones to go and get whoever he wanted. He also had Europe to attract them.

He gave us Schneiderlin, Bolasie, Ashley Williams, Klaassen, Siggurdson, Rooney, Sandro, Michael Keane, Cuco Martina and Vlasic.

In amongst that rubbish he did give us Pickford, Gueye, Calvert Lewin and Lookman but that hardly makes us for the damage inflicted.

Those players were on 5 year contracts on mega high wages, some of them didn’t even want to be here, I don’t think he even wanted to be here, and he only showed the slightest bit of care about the job he had when he was eventually fired.

All that money spent and he was playing back 5s with Pennington in and Calvert Lewin as right wing back. Tom Davies was outshining all those other midfielders.

Those players left us in an FFP hole that hampered every manager since and we’re only just starting to come out the other end now. What an opportunity he had in Europe with all that money behind him and he put us in a relegation battle and ensured we were ruined for years.

In contrast Benitez actually cleared a lot of FFP mess out the tube by selling players and only bringing in Gray and Townsend. Yes it didn’t work but he didn’t saddle the club with 100s of millions of pounds of multi year problems.
 
I'd be interested to see how you'd rank the rest
There’s too many different arguments good and bad for both.

Ancelotti was backed heavily and got us 11th twice, junk.

Koeman started his second season poorly and was binned but no manager has had such a season on season improvement when coming in from what he did taking over Martinez.

Our whole mess started with Martinez he was to Moyes what Walker was to Kendall.

Benitez equally as dire as Martinez but that stank had set in by then and he was given about 2 million quid to spend.

Silva benefits from revisionism, his first season was Ok, but people forget we went about 15-20 games mid season barely winning a game and in the build up to his inevitable sacking he was kept in post to get us through Anfield away so his potential successor didn’t have that as an opening game.

On paper Allardyce did ok, finished 8th but on the pitch it was horrific going game after game without a shot on target.

All of them (Koeman on)have been affected by too many players being signed by seemingly different people with different ideas, leaving us chasing our tails hence the amount of money Ancelotti got to spend and pay his and certain wages.

Lampard was utter crap and should’ve been sacked when he climbed on to the box in front of the directors after palace.

Walter smith was steady Eddie, but coming from ranger winning 9 on the bounce and having no money to spend (again under Johnson/Kenwright) that expectancy + no money was a recipe for disappointment.
 
This really is the slow bicycle race league table.

Moyes clearly tops it - not for brilliance, but for doing a very solid job in trying circumstances for so long in his first stint. Last season's cameo burnishes his credentials. Won nothing, though, and that HAS to be a black mark against any Everton manager at any time, let alone one who had 11 years to win something.

Ancelotti is head and shoulders the greatest manager on the list - but then he'd be that on pretty much any list of managers. It's a real shame we never got him when we had adults running the club, but other than making us feel good about ourselves for 12 months, the Carlo show was inevitably short.

For one season of thrilling football - and it was as thrilling as much as it was an aberration - Roberto Martinez deserves a top five place. 2013-14 was unquestionably the best season for me as an Evertonian since the mid-1980s. We played magnificent football at times - but it was a mirage. As soon as his predecessor's defence started to creak, the jig was up for Mr Sunshine. The moment he signed Aiden McGeady was the end.

Now, to two controversial choices - but both worthy ones. Sam Allardyce did everything required of him during his stint. The same can be said of Sean Dyche, whose job will be looked back on with respect by history. Both had one other thing in common: they outstayed their welcomes. Had Sam left after six months, voluntarily, he'd have been wished well. Had Woany's mate done likewise after the points deduction season, the same would be said.

The rest have been rubbish, I'm afraid. Walter was a decent man well past his best by the turn of this century. He was kept on for 18 months of needless agony (for all of us). Ronald Koeman was a vanity signing who didn't want to be here, took the money anyway, and went off playing golf. His demise was inevitable. Marco Silva wasn't remotely worth the grief Moshiri brought upon himself and the club in taking him - and any manager who loses 2-6 at home to Spurs and 5-2 at Anfield is incompetent - no matter how tippy or tappy his style of play. Benitez was at least 15 years past his best when he somehow rocked up here as the wrong man at the wrong club at the wrong time. His previous competence was glimpsed for a few months, but it just became too grim to accept his presence... His appointment and tenure was arguably the lowest point in the club's history - not for who he was, but for the state of us that meant going to him was an option. That was the nadir...until Fan-friendly Frank arrived.

"Enjoy the football." Not really, Frank, no. Nice guy, fantastically incompetent and in way over his head.
 
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