Confirmed Signing Tyler Dibling

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I love the narrative being woven here. Southampton set their price and we failed to meet it on, apparently, more than one occasion. Now, it seems, the price has fallen, but it is being framed as a sexy "counter" offer. What are you countering? Our failure to meet your price? Our subsequent lack of interest at that price? The invasion of Ukraine?

How else to explain a "counter-offer". If it's another "offer", it must come, by definition, with a lowering of the original price. Otherwise, you'd simply say nothing else as you have already rejected the previous approach.

So, basically, Southampton have overplayed their hand and are now looking for a way out that saves face.

We'd need to be very, very certain of this player not to go back and say "Sorry, we made our bid. Here's our counter-offer: take it or leave it."
 

I love the narrative being woven here. Southampton set their price and we failed to meet it on, apparently, more than one occasion. Now, it seems, the price has fallen, but it is being framed as a sexy "counter" offer. What are you countering? Our failure to meet your price? Our subsequent lack of interest at that price? The invasion of Ukraine?

How else to explain a "counter-offer". If it's another "offer", it must come, by definition, with a lowering of the original price. Otherwise, you'd simply say nothing else as you have already rejected the previous approach.

So, basically, Southampton have overplayed their hand and are now looking for a way out that saves face.

We'd need to be very, very certain of this player not to go back and say "Sorry, we made our bid. Here's our counter-offer: take it or leave it."
That’s my view. String em along now. I’d rather wait til the end of the window and make em sweat.
 

I pressume this is a take it or leave it offer?

Just like the last three 🫢. Like many others, I think this will eventually get done. It could be strung out to deadline day, which is no good for anyone, us, Southampton or Dibling but probably more risk to them, as we can move on to other targets whereas they likely need to cash and will need to get reinforcements themselves. As long as we are confident on a plan B, our position becomes stronger by the day, so we should be willing to compromise but not cave in to ridiculous demands.
 
That’s my view. String em along now. I’d rather wait til the end of the window and make em sweat.
Indeed. I'm not convinced this is a good deal for us - he is very young, has made little tangible impact to date, and is clearly all potential. So, possible huge upside with serious risk of major downside due to youth.

If we ARE certain this is the next Gareth Bale (and it does beg the question why nobody else seems to think that), then we will likely find a compromise and quickly. But I don't have that impression. We're not moving heaven and earth to get him. We obviously think he could be a very good player, but the lack of interest in him at his current price suggests he's not what he is hyped up to be by his more self-interested cheerleaders (i.e., Southampton).

In that case, we should take a risk and wait. Bring them down further - even if only out of principle - and risk somebody else coming in. In the meantime, I'd expect our visionaries to have other, plausible irons in the fire.

Jump now only if convinced this lad is destined for superstardom. And as I said, the lack of interest from elsewhere suggests that's not where he's headed.
 
I love the narrative being woven here. Southampton set their price and we failed to meet it on, apparently, more than one occasion. Now, it seems, the price has fallen, but it is being framed as a sexy "counter" offer. What are you countering? Our failure to meet your price? Our subsequent lack of interest at that price? The invasion of Ukraine?

How else to explain a "counter-offer". If it's another "offer", it must come, by definition, with a lowering of the original price. Otherwise, you'd simply say nothing else as you have already rejected the previous approach.

So, basically, Southampton have overplayed their hand and are now looking for a way out that saves face.

We'd need to be very, very certain of this player not to go back and say "Sorry, we made our bid. Here's our counter-offer: take it or leave it."
I think with West Ham keen on the player they really want to keep hold of and the lack of interest from others (Newcastle getting Elanga and now in for Ramsey) for Dibling, its perhaps forced them into backing down a bit over the price. I don’t think Southampton want to lose both players
 

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