Confirmed Signing Tyler Dibling

[pfim]

If i'm Southampton though, I think I favor the sell on over the immediate funds. For starters they have limited time to reallocate that return this window. Second they lose Dibling the possibility they stay in the championship is raised, thus the assurance in future money in future windows maybe more beneficial as the EPL balloon payments may not be coming in. But most importantly they clearly think he has potential to be an 100 million dollar transfer. Id say the margins are close considering the risk but the difference of 10 million in immediate return to say the upside of a 20 percent sell on in a future 100 million dollar transfer? Thats 20 million oppose to 10 million straight up. If it falls to a median future sale, they likely make what they were going to get anyway.

It depends on the numbers, but the up front removes risk and obviously limits upside as you say. But the up front also provides certainty in terms of the timeline of payment and booking on the P&L (now). He could be with Everton for four years, he could be with Everton forever...

The up front also allows them to leverage that extra 5x (amortization) either this window or in January, or any window until Dibling was sold again.

Yes the sell on may provide a higher ceiling, but there's also an opportunity cost to that.

 

[RichCee123]

Dibbling will be on buttons. They’ll x2 or x3 his salary, put a nice release clause in and it will all be forgotten about.

 

[Deulofeumygod]

Come on, Dibbers.

 

[N.S.N.O.]

2 years left on his contract basically means Southampton kinda need to sell this summer, as they won't get anywhere near 40m next summer....although they could weigh up that keeping him makes promotion more likely, and PL money will more than make up for loss in his transfer value

 

[DanB90]

Bench I think.

Sub. Played last 30 odd

Sounds like he’s being protected for a possible sale then.

Hopefully they plan on losing both and not one of him, or Dibling.

 

[Jokerdan]

Let's leave him where he is. We don't want to destroy the lad before his career has hardly even started.

 

[carolinablue232]

Makes sense though right? Try to get back up and hopefully it won’t be as big a disaster the next time. These players will still have value next summer if they can’t bounce back.

Their leverage will go down if they don't come straight back up. And without the extra money that comes from playing in the premier league, they'll likely regret not taking the 80mil or whatever they could now for two players to have it reinvested. It's a calculated bet on their part, but it's not without downside.

 

[n01efc]

2 years left on his contract basically means Southampton kinda need to sell this summer, as they won't get anywhere near 40m next summer....although they could weigh up that keeping him makes promotion more likely, and PL money will more than make up for loss in his transfer value

Don’t agree with that, he could have a storming first half of the season and they could be demanding even more at Christmas.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Dibling's value will drop though next Summer with only 12 months left.

Fair hadn’t read up on his contract

 

[TheBigIguana]

Their leverage will go down if they don't come straight back up. And without the extra money that comes from playing in the premier league, they'll likely regret not taking the 80mil or whatever they could now for two players to have it reinvested. It's a calculated bet on their part, but it's not without downside.

Oh yes big gamble, but I can see why they’d try it.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I dont disagree that construction is a bit more in their favor. But it just comes to how good of a prospect you think he is because that becomes the rationale for the upfront amount in correlation to a possible future return.

Like I said if we don't think he can somewhat likely hit James Maddison level high point evaluation at Leicester with somewhat decent assurance, Id argue 40 million now is too high. If we don't think he can surpass 75 million with that same confidence, 50 million now should be off the table. That said that seems to be the number Southampton is holding out for removed of sell on's, if not including them.

Point is make it make sense. Just trying to conceive how a deal is feasible.

A deal won't be possible if they want 50m + 20% add on. It's not realistic. They've also effectively announced their intention to sell by their rhetoric and actions, but have still not moved in their position.

Either they've thrown it out as a 'top good to turn down' price, they think someone is going to pay what they want (I'm not sure who will realistically go for those terms) or they are pricing him (and themselves) out of a move.

 

[Toffeeslam]

Seems Saints are just maybe overpricing everyone out a move

Not surprised if they are only offering 30 quid

 

[hetion]

Seems Saints are just maybe overpricing everyone out a move

50m for Fernandes is hilarious. Even 30m is a massive overpay. He wasn't even good in Portugal

 

[Aberblue]

Not surprised if they are only offering 30 quid

Makes you wonder how come Southampton were relegated last season with these two supermen in their team.

 

[Toffeeslam]

Makes you wonder how come Southampton were relegated last season with these two supermen in their team.

Asking for £50m and £60m for players who played at the 2nd worst team in premier league history.

Make of that what you will