Confirmed Signing Tyler Dibling

[Drico]

We'd better stop before the "off topic" comes in

Yup, we need to live to tell the secret we have learned.

 

[Gilbert..]

Starting to remind me of the Sean Davis transfer that never was.

 

[Jimishorts]

We'd better stop before the "off topic" comes in

Shame the mods aren't on holiday.

 

[Drico]

Which is why I added the second paragraph.

Seventh would indeed be an achievement this season or next. That's it then, though. As a female pop singer once said, "the only way is up" after that if a club is not to stall. I'm hopeful our new overlords would demand that ceiling cracked wide open. That's not been the case at our club for 40 years.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Not sure she's earned her place on that list, as one footed as she might be.

A left foot shot like a ray of light.

 

[Drico]

A left foot shot like a ray of light.

Very much in vogue, right now.

 

[nonstripdzebra]

I know, it's frustrating, but it's not an imaginary hierarchy. It's one which the clubs who are in it, work hard to maintain, both in their marketing, media management and lobbying of governance.

Look at Newcastle - richest owners in the world, just won a trophy and playing CL football, but still considered a feeder club.

It's dog eat dog.

That said those hierarchies are nuanced with each club having known strengths. Southampton may be in the championship, but they still are arguably one of the five best develop academies in the country. Dibling's history with the club (albeit in different stints) is what it is. They have spent collectively over a decade to get him to become this current level of player. The whole club model is based on garnering resources from selling at a premium the best academy products they've produced.

Both things can be true. It's dog eat dog, there is a hierarchy in regards to resources, and to a degree public perception. But that doesn't change clubs right to their own calculus and or their competence. In this case Southampton has a right to hold firm on their eval, to a degree again, considering their strategy should almost be expected. It's equally fair for us to think it's too steep.

The question is where this might settle. Is there an transfer fee with sell on that splits the difference. I wouldn't be shocked if it winds up at 38/40ish with a percentage sell on.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Seventh would indeed be an achievement this season or next. That's it then, though. As a female pop singer once said, "the only way is up" after that if a club is not to stall. I'm hopeful our new overlords would demand that ceiling cracked wide open. That's not been the case at our club for 40 years.

Dan F is going to give the sky 6 the Independence Day Randy Quaid treatment. He'll fly that Spitfire right up them!

 

[Gilbert..]

I wanted him so much at the time Failed his medical didnt he because of his knee. Or because of his knee we didnt even get that far

Yep. Player wanted to leave. Club wouldnt let him. There was an injury involved. Seems all similar.
I just remember on kipper the thread dragged on for what felt like years.

 

[Jebus_lives]

That said those hierarchies are nuanced with each club having known strengths. Southampton may be in the championship, but they still are arguably one of the five best develop academies in the country. Dibling's history with the club (albeit in different stints) is what it is. They have spent collectively over a decade to get him to become this current level of player. The whole club model is based on garnering resources from selling at a premium the best academy products they've produced.

Both things can be true. It's dog eat dog, there is a hierarchy in regards to resources, and to a degree public perception. But that doesn't change clubs right to their own calculus and or their competence. In this case Southampton has a right to hold firm on their eval, to a degree again, considering their strategy should almost be expected. It's equally fair for us to think it's too steep.

The question is where this might settle. Is there an transfer fee with sell on that splits the difference. I wouldn't be shocked if it winds up at 38/40ish with a percentage sell on.

I think we'll offer more upfront to remove the sell on.

 

[nonstripdzebra]

I think we'll offer more upfront to remove the sell on.

If i'm Southampton though, I think I favor the sell on over the immediate funds. For starters they have limited time to reallocate that return this window. Second they lose Dibling the possibility they stay in the championship is raised, thus the assurance in future money in future windows maybe more beneficial as the EPL balloon payments may not be coming in. But most importantly they clearly think he has potential to be an 100 million dollar transfer. Id say the margins are close considering the risk but the difference of 10 million in immediate return to say the upside of a 20 percent sell on in a future 100 million dollar transfer? Thats 20 million oppose to 10 million straight up. If it falls to a median future sale, they likely make what they were going to get anyway.

 

[Jebus_lives]

If i'm Southampton though, I think I favor the sell on over the immediate funds. For starters they have limited time to reallocate that return this window. Second they lose Dibling the possibility they stay in the championship is raised, thus the assurance in future money in future windows maybe more beneficial as the EPL balloon payments may not be coming in. But most importantly they clearly think he has potential to be an 100 million dollar transfer. Id say the margins are close considering the risk but the difference of 10 million in immediate return to say the upside of a 20 percent sell on in a future 100 million dollar transfer? Thats 20 million oppose to 10 million straight up. If it falls to a median future sale, they likely make what they were going to get anyway.

What in the world?!?

 

[Jebus_lives]

If i'm Southampton though, I think I favor the sell on over the immediate funds. For starters they have limited time to reallocate that return this window. Second they lose Dibling the possibility they stay in the championship is raised, thus the assurance in future money in future windows maybe more beneficial as the EPL balloon payments may not be coming in. But most importantly they clearly think he has potential to be an 100 million dollar transfer. Id say the margins are close considering the risk but the difference of 10 million in immediate return to say the upside of a 20 percent sell on in a future 100 million dollar transfer? Thats 20 million oppose to 10 million straight up. If it falls to a median future sale, they likely make what they were going to get anyway.

They also risk nothing from a future sale. He could be a total flop.

Both are a gamble.

 

[Ring master]

Seems Saints are just maybe overpricing everyone out a move

 

[TheBigIguana]

Seems Saints are just maybe overpricing everyone out a move

Makes sense though right? Try to get back up and hopefully it won’t be as big a disaster the next time. These players will still have value next summer if they can’t bounce back.