Confirmed Signing Jack Grealish

[Shibbywiggles]

Villa paid Chelsea £11m just for a loan fee for Ross Barkley... Before wages.

If we have to pay a loan fee in addition to the wages reported, then yikes. Hopefully not.

Good perspective there

Villa went from championship to champions league because they paid that kind of money

A cash injection and some smart signings and who knows where we could go

 

[ValBlue]

Not sure we have the striker though to finish things off?

I did think that as I typed it out…you’re just hoping the the chances are quality enough and consistent enough to allow the strikers to get into a good form

Failing that…start popping them from range, Jack

 

[Victus]

Him Ndiaye and KDH will have lots of fun, if they click it could be pretty scary, Barry seems like he can be intricate with his passes also.

 

[bluestevon]

Villa paid Chelsea £11m just for a loan fee for Ross Barkley... Before wages.

If we have to pay a loan fee in addition to the wages reported, then yikes. Hopefully not.

Pretty certain he's correct, imagine the mess otherwise if he's having to receive two seperate wages from two seperate "employers" in this situation we'd be paying 250k and city 50k etc, just tax alone then becomes a massive headache etc.

Po art of the holdup right now might not be over the wages, but if his contract starts city has any extras in it - in theory they can be waived or we may have to take them on

 

[MapleLeafEvertonian]

here’s what i don’t get

city know we want a “loan”

but are saying they may “sell him”

so if it’s the latter it rules us out?

And if they find a buyer that matches their price tag and Jack's ambition, good for them. But not a sniff of that eh?

Putting on a mersey blue tinted glasses here but...

Aren't man city under some pressure to get rid?

They were miles behind liverpool and somewhat Arsenal. They had the benefit of Newcastle falling off and spurs/utd being absolute no marks in the league.

If teams around them improve and they don't they could be outside of CL football

Having 300k a week not contributing in FFP era football.... not sure city can stomach that.

Everton have less to lose here tbh, not the worse negotiation spot we have been in.

 

[Kurt.]

WERE GONNA WIN THE WORLD CUP WITH THIS TEAM I TELL YA !!!!!!!!

 

[diggerdestroyer]

Undoubtedly would add quality to squad. We haven't had many of his ability and if he was to sign it would be a good statement of improvement. I'm sure everton would only bring him in if they can afford him. Would add assists to the team, quality crossing and link play.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Pretty certain he's correct, imagine the mess otherwise if he's having to receive two seperate wages from two seperate "employers" in this situation we'd be paying 250k and city 50k etc, just tax alone then becomes a massive headache etc.

Po art of the holdup right now might not be over the wages, but if his contract starts city has any extras in it - in theory they can be waived or we may have to take them on

Our AI overlords think differently

No — that’s not true.

A loan fee and wages are two separate things in football finance, both in how they’re negotiated and in how they’re accounted for.

Loan Fee – Paid to the parent club as compensation for letting the player go on loan. It’s a lump sum, agreed upfront, sometimes payable in instalments.

Wages – Paid to the player (via payroll) for their work, even if the money is routed through the parent club first. In many cases, the borrowing club reimburses the parent club for a percentage of these wages.


If a borrowing club pays £2 million for the loan and £80k/week towards wages, that’s two different payments:

1. £2 million → Parent club (loan fee)


2. £80k/week → Parent club or directly to player (wage contribution)



Clubs do not disguise wage contributions as “loan fees” — they’re treated differently in contracts and in accounting. Loan fees are recorded as transfer-related income/expenses, while wages are part of payroll costs.

If someone insists “the wage we’re covering is actually just the loan fee,” they’re either misunderstanding or oversimplifying the arrangement.

If you want, I can break down an actual example contract from a real Premier League loan that shows the two line items separately.

To be honest though I don't really care. It bores me the finance stuff. But you do hear of loan fees and/or % of wages.

 

[stretford blue]

If he can help us get anywhere near the Europa spots then money very well spent

 

[pfim]

And if they find a buyer that matches their price tag and Jack's ambition, good for them. But not a sniff of that eh?

Putting on a mersey blue tinted glasses here but...

Aren't man city under some pressure to get rid?

They were miles behind liverpool and somewhat Arsenal. They had the benefit of Newcastle falling off and spurs/utd being absolute no marks in the league.

If teams around them improve and they don't they could be outside of CL football

Having 300k a week not contributing in FFP era football.... not sure city can stomach that.

Everton have less to lose here tbh, not the worse negotiation spot we have been in.

Both City and Grealish are under pressure here. City won’t be able to sell unless to Saudi, which I don’t think Grealish wants any part of before the WC. Grealish wants regular playing time which he won’t get at City.

The only pressure we would have is from another club coming in, but there doesn’t seem to be a serious one at the moment

 

[Mark Bisson]

What will @davek do if we actual pull this off?

 

[bluestevon]

Our AI overlords think differently



To be honest though I don't really care. It bores me the finance stuff. But you do hear of loan fees and/or % of wages.

Aye, the reality is, it's exactly the same money but it's accounted for differently in terms of European and league regulations I think. Although even then I think it's a bookeeping things which equates the same.

 

[ashwuk76]

What will @davek do if we actual pull this off?

Moan as usual.

 

[Goat]

Our AI overlords think differently



To be honest though I don't really care. It bores me the finance stuff. But you do hear of loan fees and/or % of wages.

I doubt thats correct, Jack Grealish has a contract with City, they will pay his wages IMO.

Totally IMO, screw AI, its probably got its Data from bad sources.

 

[BrendanGOT]

Why do people think when you sign people on loan you pay their wages?

Because it's literally a thing...