New Everton Stadium - Hill Dickinson Stadium


Chewbacca said:
I was at the Download festival a couple of years ago and a young Scottish couple in front of me and my cousin asked if we wanted a drink and opened a bag withfbottles of suntan lotion that had been emptied and filled with various spirits. She said she had been challenged at the gate but had said “it’s roastin’ and I’ve got blue skin, feel free to taste it if you want’ and they let her through.
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kev said:
Free Wi-Fi and enhanced mobile network infrastructure will be available. The Wi-Fi will be operational across the stadium bowl and concourses, and the enhanced DAS* mobile phone network across the stadium footprint.

Please note, these systems are still undergoing testing and configuration and have not yet been tested with a capacity crowd.

*Regarding the DAS system, please note that Vodafone will not connect to the enhanced network for the Roma event, but will be operational for Brighton.
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Presumably the other MNO are fully integrated though, or is it a Vodaphone only system do you know?
 
Is the western terrace going to be closed off to the public on matchdays/non matchdays? It'd be nice to take in the river view and that side of the stadium but I understand the media, players and VIP's will use that side to enter.
 

Tom Hughes said:
Tbf, these systems are getting rolled out all over the world as BRTs or the more advanced version as guided trackless trams. There are over 200 lines already, with many more planned. The issue is how well they are implemented and what new infrastructure is added to support them. If they are afforded a high degree of segregation, priority at junctions and offboard ticketing..... they will deliver MRT performance. Belfast's system offers much of that and is being expanded as a result. Leeds made a token effort with older vehicles, without any of the infrastructure etc and they failed, just as much as you would if you tried to put a merseyrail train down the middle of county road instead of on its dedicated track.
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True BRTs as you suggest need dedicated infrastructure - including off-bus ticketing and dedicated / segregated bus lanes and priority signalling at traffic junctions. Otherwise it's not a true BRT - that's according to the BRT Manual (yes it does exist).

I think the council also missed a trick by not mandating free public transport for ST holders on matchdays - especially as the vast majority will be on digital tickets. Even physical tickets could be made compliant with the public transport ticketing systems - only wrinkle there is Merseyrail isn't yet equipped with open loop ticketing equipment (to enable digital tickets / wallets). If the club were to pay for it, the cost would be around £50k per game, or about 1/6 of Jack Grealish's wages.

Naturally of course, the optimal solution would be a Monorail. I mean Shelbyville has got one....
 
SingBlue said:
True BRTs as you suggest need dedicated infrastructure - including off-bus ticketing and dedicated / segregated bus lanes and priority signalling at traffic junctions. Otherwise it's not a true BRT - that's according to the BRT Manual (yes it does exist).

I think the council also missed a trick by not mandating free public transport for ST holders on matchdays - especially as the vast majority will be on digital tickets. Even physical tickets could be made compliant with the public transport ticketing systems - only wrinkle there is Merseyrail isn't yet equipped with open loop ticketing equipment (to enable digital tickets / wallets). If the club were to pay for it, the cost would be around £50k per game, or about 1/6 of Jack Grealish's wages.

Naturally of course, the optimal solution would be a Monorail. I mean Shelbyville has got one....
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shelbyville
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Tom Hughes said:
Fully roofed stadia have been around for a long time.... but they got a bad press, largely for needing astroturf pitches. That's no longer the case and more fully covered and/or closing roof stadia are appearing now. Of course if there's also a movable pitch, it greatly increases the flexibility of the venue for other events..... which improves BCRs for infrastructure investment too. A true planning/investment virtuous circle.
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If you remember Tom, the Kings' Waterfront design had a retractable pitch that effectively slid out to form an inaccessible garden for the low rise apartments that were to be built adjacent. At the time it was felt that better exposure to the sunshine would lead to a better quality pitch. But also partly because the original non-football events included speedway racing. The pitch to the council at the time was it could host a speedway meet in the morning, a match in the afternoon, and a Tina Turner concert in the evening. Naturally you wouldn't do those on the same day but the council needed a lot of convincing - the initial response from the leader (a red) was "There's 6 world class bids for this site. Everton's is 7th".

They were looking to build on Stanley Park at the time. Everton's planning consultants dashed off a couple of dozen viable planning objections that could be made, and then later in the year Everton became preferred bidder. The rest of course is history.
 

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