Confirmed Signing Tyler Dibling

[Ragnar]

50m with a 25% sell on is a big no.

 

[edge]

Not the same, but reminds me when a few posters on here were raving about Olise when he was at Reading...or Adam Wharton at Blackburn.

You need to be gambling before their stock rises and take the Gamble before these clubs start demanding silly money.

I'm not opposed to a 35 mill deal, but I'd be happier to see a couple of lads come in at smaller fees who have talent like the above. Ones we can develop and turn into stars.

There are a few good players still in the lower divisions.
Might see one or two in after we get are main targets in hopefully.

 

[Nymzee]

Next time you go and buy a house, if you plan on price negotation - maybe don't tell the seller you're desperate and will be homeless.

It's not a big thing, but it's not helpful.

The recruitment team, which includes Moyes, needs to be unified. Or they need to change/go.

We can have a crisis of confidence as fans, but the last seasons we've finished closer to Europe than relegation. We've spent £40m+ this summer, lost no key player and we're lashing near club record bids in for 19 year olds.

We've been in desperate situations the last few years, now is a delight by comparison.

We'll bring in the bodies we need, they probably just wont be the quality we hoped for because our appeal is what it is, right now.

The footballing world has walked past us on the street, already seen us homeless, and knows we are desperate to get a house.

When we go to buy a house, it will not be a surprise to them that we're desperate and we don't need to say it.

They've already seen us pissing into Pepsi bottles in the back alley.

 

[Cjplennon]

Yes feel the same way,
I Like the players but we are paying a Huge amount for a gamble he reaches a high bar potential wise, that's only really worth the fee if he comes good and we sell him on later.
That 25% sell on is a killer means effectively we would have to sell him on for over 70 + to get are money back.
He might never get to that level look at are own Ross Barkley at that age could be argued was better at that stage of his career and was never a 70 million pound player at any stage.
We are not at the stage as a club we can afford to take a roll of the dice like that.
Get another winger and a decent midfielder and walk away.

Pretty sure any sell on clause is only applied to any price a clun sells a player above what they paid. So if we bought him for 50mil and sold for 100mil. Southampton would get 25% of 50 mil 'profit'. It's not 25% of the full 100 mill sell on price.

 

[Bez2k2k]

Next time you go and buy a house, if you plan on price negotation - maybe don't tell the seller you're desperate and will be homeless.

It's not a big thing, but it's not helpful.

The recruitment team, which includes Moyes, needs to be unified. Or they need to change/go.

We can have a crisis of confidence as fans, but the last 2 seasons we've finished closer to Europe than relegation. We've spent £40m+ this summer, lost no key player and we're lashing near club record bids in for 19 year olds.

The desperate party here should be the relegated side, with a players contract ticking on.

We've been in desperate situations the last few years, now is a delight by comparison.

We'll bring in the bodies we need, they probably just wont be the quality we hoped for because our appeal is what it is, right now.

Wish I had your optimism.

 

[hktoffee]

The club really don't want to put themselves in a position of starting to overpay for players again. You can blame the club for taking so long to do deals that it's put us in a bad position, but if players don't want to move to us there's not much you can do about that.

Dibling would be a good buy, but not at the figures being thrown around, it's not like they've had any other official offers on him - we're now bidding against ourselves for no reason. Southampton have every right to value their player as high as possible, but they risk losing the only offer they've had and seeing him go into a Championship season with 2 years left on his contract with no sign of him agreeing another, they'll get far less when they're desperate to sell next year.

Anything more than £30m-£35m is overpaying. And we have overpaid by making a bid for 35+7.

 

[Bluewolf]

We can't have a sensible conversation if you keep shifting positions.

Proven and PL proven are two seperate things amd you stated all those players were better than Wirtz, which may be your opinion, but objectively is not factual when you consider their individual and club achievements.

Anyway, Dibling - are you paying Southamptons demands? Not for me.

Fair enough.

I did mean PL proven because obviously he's proven in the Bundesliga and sorry I just looked back and saw I did say "better players then wirtz" didnt I so fair enough.

But basically my point was Liverpool has just paid £130m for a top young talent thats unproven in the PL. So us paying £40m+ isnt a crazy price for a highly rated 19 year old whos just had a decent season in the PL.

With the dibbling offer personally id walk away at this point. It feels like their just taking the mick with that sell on fee. If they want that then they can drop the price down.

 

[McCallsVolley]

Not going with undisclosed fee this time lads

 

[degsy]

If we were to pay out £40 Million, we should be getting a guaranteed starter who is probably also our best player...a head and shoulders above the rest best player.

And Dibling is not that player by a long chalk (yet...and may never be)

 

[Steve EFC]

Fair play to Southampton but we
need to move on from this one….
Only issue I see is all these clubs will know we are getting desperate!

 

[bluestevon]

Interesting thing is if Saints have indeed moved the goalposts on fee how the player reacts now,

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

They are playing a risky game if we walk away and nobody else comes in.
The player will see a chance of a tranfer to the Premier league gone.
Only have a year left if they come back up, he will still young and if he had any sense at all would see his contract out.
If they sell him with a season left the arse drops out of the fee.
That's if he wants to go and not cash in.
The risk isnt all on Evertons side.
Honestly if that 25% is correct they have overplayed there hand .

Having read a few articles about the lads character and relationship with Southampton, I don’t think he would create a fuss if he doesn’t move . He respects his club and is happy to continue there if no move happens ( apparently).
Which is actually as it should be .

 

[GrandOldTeam]

The footballing world has walked past us on the street, already seen us homeless, and knows we are desperate to get a house.

When we go to buy a house, it will not be a surprise to them that we're desperate and we don't need to say it.

They've already seen us pissing into Pepsi bottles in the back alley.

The homeless guy there has a suit he can put on now, and enough money to spend. There's plenty of suitable accomodation, too.

The club need to manage that perception, as the CEO tried to do.

There's a hell of a lot to be optimistic about with Everton at the moment, let's not be so keen to talk ourselves down.

We need players, as we have for 4/5 years now. This summer, we can actually spend.

 

[Steve EFC]

If we were to pay out £40 Million, we should be getting a guaranteed starter who is probably also our best player...a head and shoulders above the rest best player.

And Dibling is not that player by a long chalk (yet...and may never be)

Exactly

 

[millow1878]

Next time you go and buy a house, if you plan on price negotation - maybe don't tell the seller you're desperate and will be homeless.

It's not a big thing, but it's not helpful.

The recruitment team, which includes Moyes, needs to be unified. Or they need to change/go.

We can have a crisis of confidence as fans, but the last 2 seasons we've finished closer to Europe than relegation. We've spent £40m+ this summer, lost no key player and we're lashing near club record bids in for 19 year olds.

We've been in desperate situations the last few years, now is a delight by comparison.

We'll bring in the bodies we need, they probably just wont be the quality we hoped for because our appeal is what it is, right now.

It’s funny how quickly the fans revert to desperation mode. It’s like PTSD.

We are in a miles better position than we’ve been in a long time. I genuinely see this as a 3-5 year strategy. I’m comfortable with moving on and making do in certain areas in the short term if they right players aren’t available at the right price.

We are in a position to move to a sustainable model that helps us build properly for the future. We need to be considered and hold our nerve if things aren’t quite working out in one window.

I’ve no doubt we’ll fully utilise the loan market which will take care of the extra bodies (I also think grealish is quite likely as part of that).

For key signings I’d rather we got the right player and if that’s not happening, wait.