Transfer Rumour Jack Grealish

[raiseyoureyebrow4thewin!]

Grealish has done it all. These are the sort of transfers that will lift everyone’s levels as they try and match his.

hopefully not drink as many pints as he does

 

[raiseyoureyebrow4thewin!]

Jack Grealish personality and image have arguably always created hype that has to a degree outstripped his production.

He has played 12,764 PL minutes split between a dominant City and meh Villa. He has 27G, 31A or a G/A every 220 minutes. More than respectable but not outstanding, with a decline over the last two seasons to every 286 minutes. That still isn’t bad as it is comparable to Ndiaye (272) but we have no idea if adding Grealish would mean Ndiaye would become less (or more) effective due to changing position. Kevin Mirallas as another comparison played 8812 PL minutes for us with 29G, 21A, a G/A every 176 minutes. Mirallas was clearly a significantly more productive player.

If Grealish was 21 showing his early career promise this would be wildly exciting. At 30 with his known love for partying, ‘OK’ career stats and current trajectory any loan deal would have to be at a huge discount to make sense given the significant number of ‘ifs’ involved trying to project him to us.

was thinking Grealish could be our Robinho, but the kid was 24 when he joined man city.

 

[DavenBlue]

Under Pep, Man City and Barcelona before that, only lets certain players wander out of their set areas.

Left wing is one of those areas.

Needs to get him back to his AV days.

Definitely. I had this discussion with a City fan at work a few times. At Villa I think he mainly got the ball on the counter with maybe only 2 or 3 player between him and the goal, with space to attack and he was very direct, drove at the defenders and looked to take them on. Would suit how we play now I think.

Then at City, because of the way they play, he'd get the ball a lot higher up the pitch, but there would be 5 or 6 players between him and the goal, no space, tight areas, he'd try and take people on but would give the ball away or get fouled. When he was getting free kicks in dangerous areas he was still useful for Pep but then I think defenders just learnt to stand him up and became ineffective for them and resorted 99% of the time to just playing backwards to keep possession.

 

[DL100]

As good as Pep is, I actually think he has done more damage than good with Grealish.

 

[neil999]

Moyes could be the father little Jack never had

 

[MisterJ]

That is the perceived wisdom. But what if Lineker had got injured and missed and equivalent number of games? A 40 goal a season striker dictates that entire tactical approach of a team. A goalie doesn't.

Didn't Sir Alex say that goals win games, defences win titles, or similar

 

[DaChunk]

Dele Alli mk 2.

 

[Khalekan]

Not the argument though is it. What if Lineker missed the same number of games? Would we even have finished 2nd?

Maybe it isn’t.

But I was addressing the point a poster made about Bobby Mimms v Neville Southall and the effect that had on our 1985/86 season.

 

[DRINGOSTAR]

As a dad this would help my 9 year old have a bit more love for the team if he signed. It would be nice for the kids out there who know Grealish and see him at our club !

 

[Shibbywiggles]

Dele Alli mk 2.

One is a player who gets minutes under Pep but doesn’t quite fit his system, he’s outgoing, does loads with fans and for charity and likes a bit of a drink to celebrate a big result

The other was tragically abused as a kid, became a recluse on sleeping pills and had a breakdown

Couldn’t be more different apart from both played for England and broke on the scene from a young age

 

[matty1878]

Dele Alli mk 2.

remind me to not ask
you for directions

 

[Andyramone]

Extremely talented player,but when the big boys get rid,it's for a reason. Not that many thrive after dizzy heights have been reached. We need players for a 5 year project not a luxury buy.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

Didn't Sir Alex say that goals win games, defences win titles, or similar

And yet the team that wins the league invariably scores the most goals and has the best attack. You obviously need both but attackers are much harder to find/replace.

 

[DualityNSNO]

And yet the team that wins the league invariably scores the most goals and has the best attack. You obviously need both but attackers are much harder to find/replace.

Well usually the team that wins the league has the best everything mate, so in a way, both you and SAF are right.

 

[bluestevon]

I was sat opposite the edge of our 18 yard box in that second half. It was a siege, albeit a rather haphazard one by United. I agree that they did not carve out loads of clear chances as we defended well with Southall and Watson both hugely vocal organising the team. Southall still made several top saves including one crucial double save. Most importantly he commanded his area, catching and punching with authority.

It was not his vintage peak but he definitely gave his best performance in quite some time under the spotlight on the biggest stage. As for Southall downplaying things, well he always did. He never talked himself up but he was clearly our most important player that day as he had been so many times before.

I'd argue he's one of the 3-4 most important figures in the history of the club.