2024/25 David Moyes

So would I, but that's not what Moyes is saying. Underlying his words about 6th is the belief it's a fantastical dream to achieve that but we should "shoot for the stars".

6th isn't the stars as far as I'm concerned. This league is a load of 'kin tat that we could climb with the introduction of 3/4 quality players to start games and a couple more for squad strengthening.
Ok fair enough.

I took his comment of that's where Everton should be, roughly were we where under him.

I genuinely didn't interpret it as some fantastical dream.

If he'd have said "I want us to win the league" it would go viral and he'd become a complete laughing stock of the footballing world.
 

I'd settle for 6th now mate... I'd settle for 8th actually.

It's a solid based for us to build off.

I agree the league is crap at the minute but after the absolute turmoil the club has been through the past 4 years,a nice season of consolidation in the new stadium would be just the tonic.

You're using his words against him again purely down to your sheer dislike of the man.

Would you not be happy with 6th?....Be absolutely honest with yourself.

Settle for 8th? I’d settle for 10th. Let’s not pretend we’re actually decent yet 😂
 
Big 'kin deal.

Why shouldn't we be "getting it done"?

This is a terrible league as last season underlined. And he's had us top 4/5 before.

I dont get his comment.

It's nothing to be applauded, it's a 💩house comment.

He's set a VERY low bar for us and the new owners he has to get cash off.

Cant stand the feller, I really cant. A company man to the core. Never a football man.
 

Because he says it's a shoot for the stars ambition that probably wont be reached, whereas I say this league is 💩 and we can - with the addition of a few good players - reach that position.

He's made a 'big' statement but when you look under the bonnet of it it's a pretty conservative one.

Again with Moyes downgrading Everton. Little old Everton can maybe make statement.

Honestly, he should just hold his tongue because he's about an inch away from repeating his knife to a gunfight comment.
I was at this event last night.

Much of the conversation concerned our fight to avoid relegation.

In that context for Moyes to say that we should be aspiring to Europe was in no way shape or form the kind of damming by low expectations that you seem to think it was.

You have to be willfully distorting to get to that conclusion.
 
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This was FANTASTIC.
 

Because he says it's a shoot for the stars ambition that probably wont be reached, whereas I say this league is 💩 and we can - with the addition of a few good players - reach that position.

He's made a 'big' statement but when you look under the bonnet of it it's a pretty conservative one.

Again with Moyes downgrading Everton. Little old Everton can maybe make statement.

Honestly, he should just hold his tongue because he's about an inch away from repeating his knife to a gunfight comment.
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