Oh really, a ST can't enter the ballot? I suppose it does say only FB+ can enter it.
Wonder how they'll process buying a single child (infant) ticket. On the face of it, presumably like booking flights, won't be allowed
Wonder how they'll process buying a single child (infant) ticket. On the face of it, presumably like booking flights, won't be allowed
Don't be so sure with Everton!
hallamblue
Player Valuation: £40m
Build a stadium that's too small and then rip off anyone who doesn't have a season ticket. What a great way to operate. I was looking forward to going to the new ground at some point, but not sure that'll happen now.
Basically seems this way
Assume the ST holder will also have to purchase a membership???
Not sure it is worth it and going to judge how my little one gets on at the Roma game anyway. Expect he remains a little too young to be going all the games anyway…
I appreciate your point, nor am I going to disagree on the whole, as it was predictable that our new overlords would want to maximise their investment.
But, if we want to move away from relegation fighting each year and dream of once again achieving some form of success, it is most likely the way to do so.
We can't have our cake and eat it, so to speak. The stadium was never going to pay for itself, nor could we ever expect the owners to swallow the cost.
What we can hope for is a balanced approach by TFG, where there is a level of practicality and compassion - not losing what makes Everton, well Everton.
Undoubtedly, there will be bumps along the road and not every decision will be the right one, but I would hope that in the mainstay they're suitable.
This whole change for example can be viewed two ways: they're looking for an avenue to provide more fans the opportunity to attend a game.
Selfishly, this will help rise their profits because it will mean more membership and money in the shop et al., but that shouldn't ignore the equity it brings.
The flip side is that it now makes it harder for some fans who regularly attended, like choosing their specific seats or for STs wanted to sit with a friend.
But it was never going to please all. Objectively, I would say for the wider fan base, it's probably an improvement, even consider the £60 membership cost.
Whether we like it or not, we can either choose to stand still as we once were, or move with the times; neither is perfect, and both will be uncomfortable.
We can't blame TFG for that. Also, let's not ignore that building the stadium this size nearly pushed us to oblivion, so a costlier build would have!
Timbucktoo
Player Valuation: £20m
The way it should be done is to not go so far as rip non ST holders off but charge them a bit more, knowing that with the football fan you`re dealing with repeat customers who want to return as many times as they can, and spend as much as they can afford when doing so. Then hold as many other events, like the rugby league and Taylor Swift style concert event, and that`s when you go for the jugular and get every penny out of them that you can, knowing that the folks that go are probably not slightly interested in Everton and will probably not cross the door at BMD until the next rip off event they want to see comes to town.
Thank God the ladies are due to play a game in the new ground as I can`t see them over charging for that game and it could give other folks a chance to visit. Its either that or an early league cup game that I`ll hope to visit.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I think you'd be surprised at the answer to that from most.
The former way offers the chance that perseverance and dedication will have its rewards. That there's some agency involved to being a member. The latter takes that away and replaces it with a detached remoteness where all is out of control.
MACCA75
Player Valuation: £70m
It’s not that big a change tbh. You pretty much needed to be a member to get a ticket last season. Membership is more expensive obviously but I think everyone expected a price hike for the new stadium.
Is first come first served fairer than a ballot? You could argue both ways tbh.
Is first come first served fairer than a ballot? You could argue both ways tbh.
Sweeneytoad
Player Valuation: £6m
They will phase us out over the long term to the pub and replace matchday fans with tourists.
I genuinely suggest you go and read the posts on the Everton ticket Facebook pages and other social media platforms from the last couple of seasons from the days that tickets went on sale. Literally dozens and dozens of posts every single sale day moaning, whinging and cryarsing about the whole set up, and how it was nigh on impossible for many to get a ticket for various reasons.
The club have changed that now to make it (in my opinion) simpler and fairer. You no longer have to be sat at your PC at 930am hitting F5 while at work or worrying about other things getting in the way on sales day. Are people still moaning about it? Of course. But that’s what I meant in my previous posts, the club literally can’t win with most people regardless of what they do / implement.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Yes, a relatively small amount of anecdotal evidence to back up the claim a lottery is seen as a fairer way of doing things.
For some it might well suit. For the vast majority who wish to be able to queue for one it wont be.
You're trying to make the new system sound like its a superior and fairer model when it's nothing like that. Fair enough if your family or mates get a better chance of a ticket, but at least acknowledge that and dont blithely state that a lucky dip is a major step forward from the age old queuing for a ticket for everyone. It's not. .
Sounds like a con to me - no guarantees for your £60 outlay ? - a lucky dip draw ? Kings Dock was 60,000 thanks BK .....
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