Transfer Rumour John McGinn

[blueboy72]

Isn't Gana 35 and technically he's got 2 years left now. Just saying, mate.

But he’s our player, so easier to do a deal and it’s a cheaper deal than buying McGinn

 

[Bob Elstone]

He’s a plodder

 

[peterw]

Profit on sales affects SCR just like FFP. SCR has a more stringent cap, it's effectively willing clubs to be profitable.

I think you have it slightly wrong.

SCR was introduced by UEFA as a new financial sustainability regulation. Its remit is to limit the percentage of club revenue that can be spent on squad-related costs (wages, transfers, agent fees).

FFP and PSR are more to do with allowable losses. They are two wholly different systems.

 

[blueboy72]

I think you have it slightly wrong.

SCR was introduced by UEFA as a new financial sustainability regulation. Its remit is to limits the percentage of club revenue that can be spent on squad-related costs (wages, transfers, agent fees).

FFP and PSR are more to do with allowable losses. They are two wholly different systems.

Is it you have to be under 70% ?

 

[W84 Dum Freeze]

We're FFP compliant. You're conflating FFP and SCR which is more problematic. It just means wages have to come down whilst we are in Europe. There is no pressure to sell in monetary terms, but we need to find a way of either maximising revenue further still, which will be difficult given we have Europa but no CL football, but doesn't mean a sure fire sell is the only answer.

As it is we are stacked in midfield so it is possible that one of our midfielders does go. It might be Ramsey just for that pure profit and of course the money he brings in, but there's plenty of others that could go before a Ramsey: Buendia, Dendoncker, Bailey are the three obvious candidates, maybe even Barrenechea who spent the season on loan at Valencia and broke into the Argentina squad.

But again, we'll be looking at those on the heaviest wages first. That's likely to be the likes of Martinez, Rogers, Digne, Kamara, Watkins, Tielemans way before we get anywhere near McGinn. As it is of those only one would go if that's the route they choose to go down. McGinn only goes if he wants to. And given that's he's the club captain, has said how happy he is at Villa, given the rapport he has with the fans, how happy Emery is with him, it seems a bit of an odd link.

Lazy journalism, same nationality as Moyes.

 

[peterw]

….yep, given his form at the end of last season, I’m mindful to agree they want rid.

And given that you clearly haven't watched him no need to point out how wrong you are.


However, just to be helpful this is just a snapshot of those who voted for MOTM after our last home game v Tottenham according to a Villa fans forum.
. Not bad for a player in your version of wretched form.

• Maatsen
  
  33
• McGinn
  
  23
• Kamara
  
  39
• Asensio
  
  80
• Onana
  
  21

 

[peterw]

Is it you have to be under 70% ?

Yes, no more than 70%. We're at 80 something%.

 

[Seathestars]

He’s industrious and a Moyes type player, I just feel there must be younger and better out there.
I’ve always quite liked him mind you.
If he was 25 I’d be all in.

 

[Charles Hawtrey]

TBH he has always had the look of an Everton player, even a Moyes player. I don't doubt that if we could get him cheap he would be a great squad player. Its not unreasonable to have a scenario where 5 of our first team are injured by Xmas and we are scratching around to put a team out.

 

[Eidean]

Walks into the side still, so depending on the price it’d be a good signing.

 

[Kantareller]

FC Sexy is so off

 

[pfim]

I think you have it slightly wrong.

SCR was introduced by UEFA as a new financial sustainability regulation. Its remit is to limit the percentage of club revenue that can be spent on squad-related costs (wages, transfers, agent fees).

FFP and PSR are more to do with allowable losses. They are two wholly different systems.

They are different measures (70% squad cost vs profitability), and they have somewhat different components, but the player cost aspects are similar.

If you sell a player, the profit from that sale (sale price-remaining amortized fee) is profit for PSR and for SCR.

It's not just a simple matter of reducing wages. If you get a 10 million fee for McGinn, and save 6 million on his wages, that's 16 million gain for this year (his registration is fully amortized) for both PSR and SCR.

SCR is more stringent however, as the ratio equates to lower squad costs than what PSR eventually allows.

 

[Cels]

John McGinn is a tough, hard-working, wholehearted player; I would be happy to see him join Everton, at a decent price of course.

 

[Daytripper]

I would be surprised if Villa let him go this season

 

[TheFinnFan]

Would suit us very well but probs just after a better contract at Villa