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India just prove Bazball's fault - 600 now what?

They could have declared before lunch. Watched Surrey nearly crush 1000, and laid down a point.
 
Jebus_lives said:
No, but Australia haven't replaced Shane Warner either. But they have found Lyon who can consistently take wickets and churn out overs to allow their quick to rotate and rest.
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OK....errrrrr...what i means is maybe there just isnt currently an English spinner to find?
 

Jebus_lives said:
The point would be that you introduce measures to find one. Invest in coaching, spinning wickets, etc.
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It's been a perennial problem for years, England having a dearth of spinners. There's been Swann, Panesar, Rashid, and his average was 39, Jack Leach, average 39. Going further back there was Tufnel, even his average was 37, Giles, average 40, Croft, average 37.

It's been very rare that England had an attacking spinner, who takes wickets and doesn't go for plenty. It is not a recent phenomenon.
 

summerisle said:
It's been a perennial problem for years, England having a dearth of spinners. There's been Swann, Panesar Rashid, and his average was 39, Jack Leach, average 39. Going further back there was Tufnel, even his average was 37, Giles, average 40, Croft, average 37.

It's been very rare that England had an attacking spinner, who takes wickets and doesn't go for plenty. It is not a recent phenomenon.
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No it's not, but there's a whole host of reasons why England don't produce good spinners.

I'd say the mentality doesn't help - we expect our spinners to be able batters, other countries don't.

We also produce pitches that don't turn and allow you to bowl medium pace swing for 4 days.
 
Stokes his knees have gone - bowjed very little plus why Bill after winngbthe toss twice got away with it once be a miracle if England can save the game now - pray for rain ?
The team needs leadership imo ?
 

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