dixiesdisciple
Player Valuation: £6m
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I wouldn't say it is a long way from certainty. Nevertheless the original point stands that it would be daft to sell him this summer. Deserves another season, is PL experienced now and slotting goals since the arrival of Moyes. Good striker as hopefully a back up to have but also as a safe guard against a new striker not settling/hitting the ground running.
Surprised we're in for him.
I'd have thought Moyes would look to someone with Prem experience, like Mitrovic.
Thinking of Beattie, Johnson, Yakubu, Saha, Beckford, Jo, etc.
He doesn't have the best record of bringing in strikers who haven't played in the Prem - he didnt fancy that Haller/record buy at £45m for West Ham. Don't think he was the manager who bought him, but Scamacca I think he was?
But Barry does seem to have traits that make him an Everton type striker...
I'd have thought Moyes would look to someone with Prem experience, like Mitrovic.
Thinking of Beattie, Johnson, Yakubu, Saha, Beckford, Jo, etc.
He doesn't have the best record of bringing in strikers who haven't played in the Prem - he didnt fancy that Haller/record buy at £45m for West Ham. Don't think he was the manager who bought him, but Scamacca I think he was?
But Barry does seem to have traits that make him an Everton type striker...
Of course it's a long way from certain. It wouldn't be certain even if he'd done it every year for the last 5 seasons, it's a long way from certain when he's literally never done it before. Like I said, you'd hope that his scoring record at the back end of last season will continue, but you'd have hoped that about DCL when he already had 10 in about October under Ancelotti, and about Jelavic in his second season, and about Jo in his second loan etc etc etc.
ashwuk76
Player Valuation: £35m
That is pedantic at a high level. Basically you are saying Salah, Haaland and any forward in the world is a long way off certainty because it hasn't happened yet. 19 starts and 10 goals in all comps tells me that he is very likely to get low double figures (again) considering half the season was under Dyche. Vault me at the end of next season.
Main point still applies
witchdoc187
Player Valuation: £60m
What's that? He's got a terrible injury record or can't score goals?
What's that? He's got a terrible injury record or can't score goals?
Haha.
Not seen the lad kick a ball live, but from the clips I've seen, and the nerd graphs, he wins the lot in the air and plays with intensity/effort.
You do those two things, and you're half way there with Evertonians.
He also carries the ball/can pickup the ball an take it forward - I'm sure that's what we're prioritising this summer. Every player we have credible links with, like Doak, Fellows, Delap all score very highly on that.
No that's not what i'm saying at all. I'm saying it's not a 'certainty' that Haaland or Salah will get you 10 goals. It's extremely likely, but it's not certain because they could get injured or just have an unfathomable drop off in form. You would get very short odds indeed, but it would not under any circumstances be a 'certainty' and that is the word you used. It wasn't pedantry, the point was just that it would be understandable to say it about players like that but still not actually true.
What I'm saying about Beto is that - based on previous evidence - he is a lot less likely to do it than they are, therefore he is 'a long way from certain' to do it. His best goalscoring season at the top level is 11 goals. He has been in the PL for 2 years and not scored double figures. Suggesting he is 'certain' to do it next year is a bit bonkers when you look at it like that. I won't need to vault you if it happens because I haven't said he won't do it, and have in fact said more than once that if he keeps up the form of the back end of last season then he should do. The really simple point being made is that it's possible he won't keep up that form (or get as many minutes). Fans seeing short runs of form and extrapolating future performance levels from it is a mistake as old as time, but some people can't help making the same foolish mistakes.
The correct answer.
Marius57
Player Valuation: £60m
Based off that list, he doesn’t have the best record of bringing in strikers with PL experience either.
Most of them have us what, 1 good season?
Shows that Moyes trusts Beto to keep improving and keep scoring if we’re bringing in this lad which I’m very happy with
Now we just need more than one full back/winger who can supply a striker!
Now we just need more than one full back/winger who can supply a striker!
Yeah he hasn't had success with strikers but the point was he tends to always go for strikers who have performed to a level in the Prem.
I can't think of a single striker in all his years, he's signed without Premier League experience who has done OK.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Kevin Mirrallas!
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