New Everton Stadium - Hill Dickinson Stadium

[Jacko93]

This is the most ridiculous stadium plan ever, they can’t even fill St Andrews !!!

Where are they going to find 60k plus fans when they have Aston Villa, Wolves and Forest near by ?

They are risking the clubs future if they saddle a league 1 side with a 60k stadium debt

Tbf. You can build a 60k seater for much cheaper than our 52k stadium. You just have to forego location, design and quality.

I know what I'd rather have.

 

[Makis]

Money spent on filling the dock + all the preservation work would have probably paid for those extra seats.

 

[Socistep2]

On those two...Birmingham seems a strange one as they simply don't have the fanbase, regardless of whether they have a huge population. They've barely ever got big crowds in their entire history.

With Leeds, I think if they steam ahead with this expansion plan before getting some PL stability they could be putting themselves at huge risk of having a financial disaster at the club. Their matchgoing fanbase has shown over the years that it's fickle - they dropped to 20K-25K crowds before their first promotion back around covid time. They also charge high prices so if the football on show and results are poor, they will struggle to get capacity crowds. Elland Road is a dump too, will need a lot of work, I think it's that bad, they actually need a new stadium.

Very fickle, I have lived in Leeds since 2001 and whilst they have a passionate hardcore I remember how they all lost interest from the high of the CL semi finals to a few years later when they dropped into league 2 - I think they were down to 20k at one point

That being said the whole bielsa to promotion then a few years in the PL seems to have been maintained in the championship but they've been top 3 since going down

Be interesting to see if they regularly get 50k plus

 

[BullensRoad]

Because the last seats are, by a distance, the most expensive seats to build (which is a fact - no matter what you say) and we’d be getting next to no return if we did what you’re saying.

Who’s footing that bill?

Do yourself a favour - never, ever start up your own business.

Always wondered why we couldn't do what city have done with their previous and current expansions, put boxes or premium seating at the very back of them.

 

[toffee66]

Everton were relatively restrained with the pricing for ordinary season tickets at the new stadium. They also largely maintained their discounts for young and old with no cap on numbers which I think reflects a view within the club that the majority of revenue growth has to come from optimising the premium offers and the one-off ticket sales (from capping season ticket sales at a similar level to Goodison). They know they have more price elasticity with corporates, tourists, global fans and exiled fans like me who might make 2-3 games per season and for whom the ticket is a small part of the total cost vs travel, hotel etc.

This is smart customer segmentation. It seems they understand that they cannot soak the majority fanbase which is not affluent compared to eg Arsenal, Spurs (living in North London for 30 years now I know). Like Tom I hope this is policy and continues into the future as we need to build and sustain our future fanbase alongside commercial growth. Hopefully our growth can help the north of the city regenerate and slowly become more prosperous, which in turn supports more growth. We need to work with national and local government to pursue that wider vision alongside the football.

 

[Tom Hughes]

Average attendances have no bearing.

It's a misnomer. In the past attendances fluctuated. Stadiums weren't always full to the brim, but it's good to have had a big stadium capacity should we need it.

Better to have available capacity should we need it (big games) than keeping it low ensuring less people can go.

Tbf, that's only achievable if you redevelop, build cheaply or have majorly leveraged enabling projects (Kings Dock). Otherwise the debts from building any additional capacity have to be covered. Not necessarily an issue if there are wealthy benefactors covering the cost, and/or there's little or no prospect of that debt getting dumped on the club at some point. We were essentially sold that dream.... and it didn't really live up to the reality. City are essentially building capacity to stack'em high and sell'em cheap for the future. When the hordes of new young fans their success has gained get older and want to go themselves. Then they'll fill it easily.

 

[Tommy.]

Money spent on filling the dock + all the preservation work would have probably paid for those extra seats.

I don't think the stadium would have floated though mate.

 

[Makis]

I don't think the stadium would have floated though mate.

Well, d'oh. But it could have been built somewhere else. Less iconic for sure but people would have gotten their 60k+ stadium.

 

[Davideeyore]

The location is iconic. The stadium is unique. Don't forget we didn't get all the "bells & whistles", as per Dan Meis. What ever that means. (No cheese room ).

What we do get as well as the dock being filled in is a prime waterfront location. Perhaps not exactly prime right now but in 10, 15, 20 years it should be a different world. I'm not impressed with the pace of change for LW.

 

[Tommy.]

Well, d'oh. But it could have been built somewhere else. Less iconic for sure but people would have gotten their 60k+ stadium.

Location, location, location though.

Give me an iconic Liverpool waterfront stadium over a larger/generic inland construction every day of the week.
You can't put a price on the exposure this stadium will bring, the fact we've got Euro's games being hosted at our place over that lots monstrosity back in L4 should tell people all they need to know, alas...

 

[charlie atkins]

Will you be allowed inside the wall matchdays without a ticket, and what about non matchdays?

 

[Tom Hughes]

Location, location, location though.

Give me an iconic Liverpool waterfront stadium over a larger/generic inland construction every day of the week.
You can't put a price on the exposure this stadium will bring, the fact we've got Euro's games being hosted at our place over that lots monstrosity back in L4 should tell people all they need to know, alas...

Tbh, all that really tells us is that Anfield isnt eligible for the Euros (on pitch size). If it was, would BMD have been chosen ahead of the larger Anfield, with more boxes and corporate etc? I'm not so sure.

 

[SLAVEN BILIC]

Will you be allowed inside the wall matchdays without a ticket, and what about non matchdays?

Yes, they’ve only been checking tickets at the wall for the test events due to keeping the numbers at the required level. On non match days you’ll be able to walk around the ground otherwise you’d never get into the club shop.

 

[Tommy.]

Tbh, all that really tells us is that Anfield isnt eligible for the Euros (on pitch size). If it was, would BMD have been chosen ahead of the larger Anfield, with more boxes and corporate etc? I'm not so sure.

Bloody hell, Tom.
Do people actively avoid you at parties?

 

[maccavennie]

A quick glance at Seat Unique and the Tunnel Experience for the Derby and some of the top games almost sold out already. At 4k a pop, clearly there's people with the cash willing to pay.

They called me up yesterday, and apparently doing well so far with sales. I did ask I they failed to sell any of the corporate tickets what happens. They said they will remain empty seats.

So I imagine they invisage most games selling out on general sale and when tourists want tickets for a prem game the only available option will be Village Street etc from £400 > £700.

All the availability I can see on the website is still showing 4 seats remaining for the loge seats (they're the ones priced at 4k each for the derby)

The only one which I can see updated is for Village street against Brighton where it says only 5 tickets left.