New Everton Stadium - Hill Dickinson Stadium

[Charro]

He basically admitted he didn't bother sorting anything out because of the ownership issues.

Everything at this point is a rush job in the hope that it works.

It won't. There won't be enough buses, people will be bottlenecked getting away from the ground, the trains won't work properly and there's next to no traffic management plan in place.

I'll be going into town and avoiding all of it.

 

[JelavicBrate2]

It's because he has the absolute safest job in the entire country. There's no scrutiny and no accountability and he's fully aware of that fact.

Britain simply isn't a democracy, they're all the same and have been since 1997, I can't understand the love for Labour on here, hate the Tory cockroaches just as much if not more. People involved in Labour politics in Liverpool just do it as a careers, they know it's a safe seat so don't bother to do anything. Both political parties should of been got rid 20 years ago.

 

[mikel_88]

Do find strange still no more details over season tickets as going digital.

 

[Socistep2]

That's the point though isn't it - the transport working group was set up one year before the plan was submitted to LCC to progress the transport strategy for the new stadium. So the LCC and LCR had 12 months worth of meetings as equal stakeholders with EFC to pipe up and say: "This wont fly as it is...and we wont be handing any funding to transport issues at BMD, so you need to reconsider your plans". But they didn't do that because they were desperate for Everton to solve the regeneration issues in north Liverpool that they were clueless to solve themselves. In other words there should never have been an agreement in the first place. The local state are to blame here. They are the source o this problem. You resist that for some unknown reason.



As I've demonstrated to you on this forum before, I was voicing concerns about transport way before you ever piped up about it here, so your criticism of me 'saying next to nothing' while trumpeting your own dubious 'achievements' on the latter is factually incorrect and a bit pathetic..



Stop making a virtue out of a necessity.

Your solution here is no solution at all if our most vulnerable fans are forced to relinquish their match going - and that WILL be the case. There is no 'workable short term solution' if it involves public transport from the city centre because of the hard landing zones in position. It'll take people (crawling along at a snail's pace) only so far and it amounts to a devil take the hindmost plan of action for the vulnerable.

The only 'solution' as it stands is a hard nosed Darwinian solution of having tens of thousands of people walking fair distances and that amounts to a completely unworkable environment for hundreds of our disabled fans until such time as adequate transportation is provided to that stadium.

There is allocation for some disabled parking -> https://www.evertonfc.com/fans/edsa/parking

I imagine there will be disabled car parking allowed closer to the ground, additionally there will lots of private car parks popping up

I'm unaware of the current arrangements at goodison, is there allocated parking at or close to the ground for disabled fans ?

The club have always fantastically looked after disabled fans and rightly so, pretty sure this will continue

 

[liamefc91]

What do we moan about now?

Can i suggest the branding etc,?

 

[Tom Hughes]

That's the point though isn't it - the transport working group was set up one year before the plan was submitted to LCC to progress the transport strategy for the new stadium. So the LCC and LCR had 12 months worth of meetings as equal stakeholders with EFC to pipe up and say: "This wont fly as it is...and we wont be handing any funding to transport issues at BMD, so you need to reconsider your plans". But they didn't do that because they were desperate for Everton to solve the regeneration issues in north Liverpool that they were clueless to solve themselves. In other words there should never have been an agreement in the first place. The local state are to blame here. They are the source o this problem. You resist that for some unknown reason.



As I've demonstrated to you on this forum before, I was voicing concerns about transport way before you ever piped up about it here, so your criticism of me 'saying next to nothing' while trumpeting your own dubious 'achievements' on the latter is factually incorrect and a bit pathetic..



Stop making a virtue out of a necessity.

Your solution here is no solution at all if our most vulnerable fans are forced to relinquish their match going - and that WILL be the case. There is no 'workable short term solution' if it involves public transport from the city centre because of the hard landing zones in position. It'll take people (crawling along at a snail's pace) only so far and it amounts to a devil take the hindmost plan of action for the vulnerable.

The only 'solution' as it stands is a hard nosed Darwinian solution of having tens of thousands of people walking fair distances and that amounts to a completely unworkable environment for hundreds of our disabled fans until such time as adequate transportation is provided to that stadium.

Some of us piped up long before the planning went in.....and in several meetings with the club and authorities too. Did you? You posted next to nothing on here (as you showed yourself) or elsewhere in comparison to myself and several others (unless you post under several names).

The local authorities have little to no obligations.... if they are desperate for a development/investment then there is leverage and the club can negotiate from a position of strength.....however, if there is no funding available then both parties have to make a judgement call. The council probably have several get out of jail clauses, as did Knowsley before them....... but the big difference is that Kirkby didn't have all of the city region's major public transport hubs within walking/shuttle distance.

 

[mahermi1]

What do we moan about now?

Can i suggest the branding etc,?

It's a start mate.

 

[Frenk]

What do we moan about now?

Can i suggest the branding etc,?

I question the shade of blue on the donuts it’s not quite right, and the sprinkles are not equal across all them, they need to correct that before the first game.

 

[Mr. White]

There is allocation for some disabled parking -> https://www.evertonfc.com/fans/edsa/parking

I imagine there will be disabled car parking allowed closer to the ground, additionally there will lots of private car parks popping up

I'm unaware of the current arrangements at goodison, is there allocated parking at or close to the ground for disabled fans ?

The club have always fantastically looked after disabled fans and rightly so, pretty sure this will continue

I've always thought the land immediately opposite the stadium (where the Holy Trinity marquee is being built) would be ideal for a carpark for blue badge holders. You could fit a good number of cars on there and it would be convenient for disabled supporters using the east side of the stadium.

 

[davek]

There is allocation for some disabled parking -> https://www.evertonfc.com/fans/edsa/parking

I imagine there will be disabled car parking allowed closer to the ground, additionally there will lots of private car parks popping up

I'm unaware of the current arrangements at goodison, is there allocated parking at or close to the ground for disabled fans ?

The club have always fantastically looked after disabled fans and rightly so, pretty sure this will continue

I'm afraid it relates to so called 'soft landing areas' in the plan - and that would entail our disabled supporters taking advantage of a scheme that will allow them through to a place close to the stadium. But the kicker is that it's something that can only be done well over an hour before the game...and goodness knows about how they get picked up again after the game.

 

[davek]

Some of us piped up long before the planning went in.....and in several meetings with the club and authorities too. Did you? You posted next to nothing on here (as you showed yourself) or elsewhere in comparison to myself and several others (unless you post under several names).

The local authorities have little to no obligations.... if they are desperate for a development/investment then there is leverage and the club can negotiate from a position of strength.....however, if there is no funding available then both parties have to make a judgement call. The council probably have several get out of jail clauses, as did Knowsley before them....... but the big difference is that Kirkby didn't have all of the city region's major public transport hubs within walking/shuttle distance.

Let me ask you this - yes or no answer if possible: if you were the LCC planning officer that looked at the Everton BMD application would you have passed it?

Simple enough question.

 

[AndyRJ]

He's not interested either,in his eyes it's our problem

He's made that very clear.

He'd fly the day trippers straight from town to Anfield on magic carpets if he could.

I thought this quote from the BBC article was particularly laughable.

"We are hoping that as people find their own pattern of behaviour, because that's what happens with football fans, that they will perhaps come into town find a pub that they want, and then people will take their own time and get there in plenty of time for the kick-off."

So his solution to the problem is that he hopes fans will stay away from the near £1bn stadium we've built, spend their money elsewhere and simply walk from town. That's the spirit; ignore the problem and hope it resolves itself.

How about try doing your job properly and find some money to fund infrastructure improvements that in turn will encourage more investment in the area?

If it was our red cousins he'd be moving mountains to make sure they were fully supported.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

I thought this quote from the BBC article was particularly laughable.



So his solution to the problem is that he hopes fans will stay away from the near £1bn stadium we've built, spend their money elsewhere and simply walk from town. That's the spirit; ignore the problem and hope it resolves itself.

How about try doing your job properly and find some money to fund infrastructure improvements that in turn will encourage more investment in the area?

If it was our red cousins he'd be moving mountains to make sure they were fully supported.

I’m not sure that is strictly true .
However it is worth remembering that our lovable neighbours are worth a significant amount more to our City than ourselves.
Both in terms of bringing money into the city on matchdays and in terms of advertising the City worldwide and acting as a significant draw for investment.
If they sometimes seem to be given more consideration there is a solid and logical reason for this.

 

[tommye]

I thought this quote from the BBC article was particularly laughable.



So his solution to the problem is that he hopes fans will stay away from the near £1bn stadium we've built, spend their money elsewhere and simply walk from town. That's the spirit; ignore the problem and hope it resolves itself.

How about try doing your job properly and find some money to fund infrastructure improvements that in turn will encourage more investment in the area?

If it was our red cousins he'd be moving mountains to make sure they were fully supported.

Do f all and hope for the best.
Nice one Steve.

Bellend.

 

[WA Toffee]

Has there any news on what ticket prices will be? I can only see season ticket prices published