6 + 2 Point Deductions


Just money they still bring in is more a problem in the future if not winning things and well dont get into europe ect. Sponsors would say even the fanbase from fans outside england will drop.
I read their league position (May failure to get CL) has activated a £10m penalty from adidas.
Can’t imagine they’re the only sponsors with performance clauses.
 
Still think there was some government influence to bring about the removal of (not so) covert Russian money from the UK’s headline sports export.

Everyone knew we were really owned and very much funded by Usmanov. Mosh leaving the board of USM just wasn’t sufficient so I think it was being made clear if you don’t get out, there will be nothing left for you.
Pure coincidence the other charges disappeared once TFG were clearly buying…..:coffee:

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I actually didn’t realise Mudryk was banned til he turned up in Poland. If he gets a 4 yr ban surely Chelsea can’t a free pass on his fee like we didn’t with “player x” / not predicting a war. Surely doping is a higher risk than a big war in Europe / a player have issues / blackmail ?
 

I actually didn’t realise Mudryk was banned til he turned up in Poland. If he gets a 4 yr ban surely Chelsea can’t a free pass on his fee like we didn’t with “player x” / not predicting a war. Surely doping is a higher risk than a big war in Europe / a player have issues / blackmail ?

Who ? Of course they will, it's not even a question mate.
 
I actually didn’t realise Mudryk was banned til he turned up in Poland. If he gets a 4 yr ban surely Chelsea can’t a free pass on his fee like we didn’t with “player x” / not predicting a war. Surely doping is a higher risk than a big war in Europe / a player have issues / blackmail ?
He signed an 8.5 year deal at 150k per week. Even though they did that fiddle of making payments over the course of his contract, that still must add up and restrict future spending you’d think given how many players they’ve done that with.
 
Everton to fume at Manchester City punishment delays
There is no doubt that the issues with finances took a toll on the work of Sean Dyche and Kevin Thelwell throughout their spell in charge.


Although the currently unemployed head coach did an excellent job of keeping his side in the Premier League, the frustration was still palpable in L4.


This saw supporters hold up pink banners in a visual protest against the Premier League, and their issues haven’t truly been resolved.

This comes as Manchester City continue to hold off from being handed a punishment for their charges with 180 days now passed since the independent commission began considering their verdict.

In his weekly Daily Mail column (3 June), Ian Herbert has shared his belief that the longer this goes on, the likelihood of any punishment will be less.

He said: “The expanse of time leads me to conclude City are going to win this
one. No points deduction. No relegation.”
 

Still think there was some government influence to bring about the removal of (not so) covert Russian money from the UK’s headline sports export.

Everyone knew we were really owned and very much funded by Usmanov. Mosh leaving the board of USM just wasn’t sufficient so I think it was being made clear if you don’t get out, there will be nothing left for you.
Pure coincidence the other charges disappeared once TFG were clearly buying…..:coffee:

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Nice to see Philip Carter looking so well.
 
Everton to fume at Manchester City punishment delays
There is no doubt that the issues with finances took a toll on the work of Sean Dyche and Kevin Thelwell throughout their spell in charge.


Although the currently unemployed head coach did an excellent job of keeping his side in the Premier League, the frustration was still palpable in L4.


This saw supporters hold up pink banners in a visual protest against the Premier League, and their issues haven’t truly been resolved.

This comes as Manchester City continue to hold off from being handed a punishment for their charges with 180 days now passed since the independent commission began considering their verdict.

In his weekly Daily Mail column (3 June), Ian Herbert has shared his belief that the longer this goes on, the likelihood of any punishment will be less.

He said: “The expanse of time leads me to conclude City are going to win this
one. No points deduction. No relegation.”
Surely it’s going to take longer because they had over 115 charges and we only had 1

Common sense would dictate it would therefore take 115 times longer
 
It genuinely is an outrage that Manchester City are yet again being given another transfer window to cement their future and reduce the severity of any kind of punishment they might receive for these charges.

They were allowed to cheat, allegedly, for over a decade, going from Premier League nobodies owned by a crooked Thai politician in 2008, to having the Abu Dhabi royal family take them over in 2009, immediately splash £32 million on Robinho--who didn't even know Manchester City existed--and then fake sponsorship deals which allowed them to spend over a billion and a half in the 15 years that have followed.

Their wealth has enabled them to not only escape punishment, but to future-proof any potential relegations or European bans by building a huge network of clubs they can take talent from ranging from clubs in South American, Spain, USA and Australia, to create a world class football academy that has soaked up all of the local talent, and to pay salaries far in excess of what their income should enable them to spend had they have acted according to the rules.

Let's look at some potential punishments...
  • If they're kicked out of the Premier League, the Championship will no doubt (even if they're not obligated to) make room for them. They'd keep their entire squad and be challenging to win the Premier League again within two-three seasons.
  • If they're given a multi-year transfer ban who cares? Their squad is enormous and they'd easily be qualifying for Champions League regardless.
  • If they're fined hundreds of millions it does not matter one jot as the Abu Dhabi royal family make that money back in a day.
The only suitable punishment, in my opinion, would be expulsion from the Premier League and a ban from gaining promotion back to the Premier League for the duration that their cheating occurred and they stove off punishment via their own crooked legal threats - so about a decade and a half.

That way, although they would be able to qualify for the Europa League via winning a domestic cup, and the Champions League a season later if they could win the Europa League, the odds of them remaining a modern giant of a club would be massively reduced. Yes they'd win any league they ended up in, but they'd not be allowed back into the Premier League, their players would want to leave or stay and drain them of tens of millions a year under no obligation to leave, and they'd truly be punished for their wrongdoings.

I personally think even a 15-year ban from the Premier League is pretty light for what they've got away with, especially when you consider Everton were almost relegated simply for spending 20 million 'too much' on trying to build a stadium that would, in some small way, start to slowly bridge the gap between us and the new big clubs, including cheating Manchester City. Look at the silverware they've won via cheating - I think 25 years wouldn't be too big of a ban.

... but we all know they're getting away with it all.
 
PSR/FFP is dead. It was only ever brought in as a way to “help” certain clubs stay at the top. It hasn’t worked as their has been as many clubs that it is designed to protect in trouble as the rest. It will quietly be binned. No main stream media, who want to stay on the PL gravy train can risk asking to many questions and probably don’t want to anyway.
It didn’t work.
We are now moving to a de facto European Super League so the main purpose of FFP is not required now. Man Utd will spend, without restriction, to get back to Europe and then the increased revenue from the CL tournament will do it’s the job of FFP. Make it a closed shop.
If I was Spuds I would be worried as they seemed to invite themselves to the SKY 6 party and I’m not sure anyone else will care if they get left behind.

PSR by definition must look to sanction a club that is making canteen workers and cleaners redundant but still lashing £100’sM on players. Not really a sustainable model as defined by the PL if I correctly remember the arguments they used against Everton. Risking the club etc etc.
 
PSR/FFP is dead. It was only ever brought in as a way to “help” certain clubs stay at the top. It hasn’t worked as their has been as many clubs that it is designed to protect in trouble as the rest. It will quietly be binned. No main stream media, who want to stay on the PL gravy train can risk asking to many questions and probably don’t want to anyway.
It didn’t work.
We are now moving to a de facto European Super League so the main purpose of FFP is not required now. Man Utd will spend, without restriction, to get back to Europe and then the increased revenue from the CL tournament will do it’s the job of FFP. Make it a closed shop.
If I was Spuds I would be worried as they seemed to invite themselves to the SKY 6 party and I’m not sure anyone else will care if they get left behind.

PSR by definition must look to sanction a club that is making canteen workers and cleaners redundant but still lashing £100’sM on players. Not really a sustainable model as defined by the PL if I correctly remember the arguments they used against Everton. Risking the club etc etc.
I think that FFP rules were brought in with the intention of clubs going bust down to the way Leeds were run. It was only when they got into trouble that the powers that be took any notice, while there have been plenty of teams that had got into financial trouble trying to compete in the PL before and ended up falling down the league. The problem with the FFP rules is that when a club is struggling on the field its revenue drops and leaves them short of cash, and when you start taking points off teams in that situation you end up increasing the clubs problems as it sends them further down the table and they end up in a relegation problem. Then you have the teams that were already making up a big 4, with the addition of Spurs and a cash rich City sticking two fingers up to the rules and if they aren`t finding ways around the rules they are just braking them on a massive scale.

The FFP instead of helping teams that get into financial trouble ending up going out of business, has seen those clubs battered by the powers that be on the way to going bust, and have also made a monster of the clubs at the top that can ignore the rules knowing that they can spend on top lawyers to find loop holes in the rules, or keep the FA or UEFA tied up in legal battles as they continue to ignore the rules.
 

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