There She Goes

[den]

what are they saying?

Apparently it’s Bebra, the town in Germany where the show was recorded.

 

[Raino85]

There she goes works for me but really I'm just craving for change. A new stadium, new owners - it's a new beginning and one we've been desperate for for years, if not decades. For me, and I know it's controversial, I want to leave the past behind and focus on moving forward. I've no time for sentimentality. I've no desire to read mottos in languages I don't speak or listen to TV theme tunes from TV shows I've never seen. How can we engage the next generation of potential fans if we keep clinging to successes of 40+ years ago? This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to completely reset and I don't want to miss it.

 

[den]

There she goes works for me but really I'm just craving for change. A new stadium, new owners - it's a new beginning and one we've been desperate for for years, if not decades. For me, and I know it's controversial, I want to leave the past behind and focus on moving forward. I've no time for sentimentality. I've no desire to read mottos in languages I don't speak or listen to TV theme tunes from TV shows I've never seen. How can we engage the next generation of potential fans if we keep clinging to successes of 40+ years ago? This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to completely reset and I don't want to miss it.

You know it’s not just the theme song to a show you never watched, right? It’s a rendition of an old Liverpool folk song used as a
TV theme, and it became associated with the club organically, after being played in honor of an actor who attended a match, then again when he died. When the team lost the next match, supporters asked for its return, and the club went on to win the league. That’s why it stuck. It’s not about Z-Cars. It’s about the history, Johnny Todd and Harry Catterick.

 

[Bkk Andy]

You know it’s not just the theme song to a show you never watched, right? It’s a rendition of an old Liverpool folk song used as a
TV theme, and it became associated with the club organically, after being played in honor of an actor who attended a match, then again when he died. When the team lost the next match, supporters asked for its return, and the club went on to win the league. That’s why it stuck. It’s not about Z-Cars. It’s about the history, Johnny Todd and Harry Catterick.

It's a nice sentiment but like I said, I've no time for sentimentality. I want to push forward as a club instead of clinging on to a desperately irrelevant past.

 

[Rita_Poon]

There she goes works for me but really I'm just craving for change. A new stadium, new owners - it's a new beginning and one we've been desperate for for years, if not decades. For me, and I know it's controversial, I want to leave the past behind and focus on moving forward. I've no time for sentimentality. I've no desire to read mottos in languages I don't speak or listen to TV theme tunes from TV shows I've never seen. How can we engage the next generation of potential fans if we keep clinging to successes of 40+ years ago? This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to completely reset and I don't want to miss it.

Absolutely brilliant this.

Hats off.

 

[Charro]

It's a nice sentiment but like I said, I've no time for sentimentality. I want to push forward as a club instead of clinging on to a desperately irrelevant past.

Much bigger clubs than us still use songs from generations ago.

History and tradition is part of what makes a big club.

 

[Rita_Poon]

I'd like to read some more. What else can go under the bus?

 

[allen]

There she goes works for me but really I'm just craving for change. A new stadium, new owners - it's a new beginning and one we've been desperate for for years, if not decades. For me, and I know it's controversial, I want to leave the past behind and focus on moving forward. I've no time for sentimentality. I've no desire to read mottos in languages I don't speak or listen to TV theme tunes from TV shows I've never seen. How can we engage the next generation of potential fans if we keep clinging to successes of 40+ years ago? This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to completely reset and I don't want to miss it.

Bad take.

We've won nothing for a generation.

If you remove the sentimentality and the history, there's zero reason for anyone to be an Evertonian.

Having a new stadium isn't reason enough for people to decide they're going to support the club.

Familial bonds linking your lineage back to the glory days, and hoping for their return, is a great big reason.

 

[Bkk Andy]

Bad take.

We've won nothing for a generation.

If you remove the sentimentality and the history, there's zero reason for anyone to be an Evertonian.

Having a new stadium isn't reason enough for people to decide they're going to support the club.

Familial bonds linking your lineage back to the glory days, and hoping for their return, is a great big reason.

Local support is no longer enough. The big clubs have global fan bases that they can generate income from. We could have been one of those but we sat back talking about our history instead.

We have foreign owners and TV rights that stream us all over the world. Exploiting these gives us a chance of returning to the glory days. Lineage doesn't.

 

[Vaughan]

Liverpool is the most sentimental city in the world bar perhaps Dublin or Glasgow

Trying to get rid of sentimentality here is like asking people not to breathe

 

[AsiaAsia82]

I wouldn’t mind if the RS stopped singing that dirge either, but people outside the city recognise those types songs as part of any club.

There She Goes is a different song, added to a catalogue of others, bringing fans together and creating an atmosphere prior to the match.

But not all will agree!

 

[kev]

I wouldn’t mind if the RS stopped singing that dirge either, but people outside the city recognise those types songs as part of any club.

There She Goes is a different song, added to a catalogue of others, bringing fans together and creating an atmosphere prior to the match.

*But not all will agree!

*That's a caveat that belongs at the end of practically every post on the forum.

 

[allen]

Local support is no longer enough. The big clubs have global fan bases that they can generate income from. We could have been one of those but we sat back talking about our history instead.

We have foreign owners and TV rights that stream us all over the world. Exploiting these gives us a chance of returning to the glory days. Lineage doesn't.

No one from anywhere in the world is going to support Everton without knowing about our history.

That people love this club despite decades of underachievement is our USP. That's our differentiator from the hollowness of Liverpool, City, Chelsea, United fans.

New fans buy into our history, our heritage and our irrational love for the club.

And just as well because we have nothing else to attract them.

It makes zero sense to trample on the past because you think we're suddenly going to be great in the modern age and that will be enough in isolation.

Everyone wants success. Cutting off the past won't bring it closer.

 

[Bkk Andy]

No one from anywhere in the world is going to support Everton without knowing about our history.

That people love this club despite decades of underachievement is our USP. That's our differentiator from the hollowness of Liverpool, City, Chelsea, United fans.

New fans buy into our history, our heritage and our irrational love for the club.

And just as well because we have nothing else to attract them.

It makes zero sense to trample on the past because you think we're suddenly going to be great in the modern age and that will be enough in isolation.

Everyone wants success. Cutting off the past won't bring it closer.

We'll need to agree to disagree mate. I've lived in Asia for close to 20 years and they care about having a reason to support teams now. No one cares about something that happened before they were born. We blew our best opportunity of success when the premier league launched. If we look backwards instead of forwards we'll blow another one.

 

[allen]

We'll need to agree to disagree mate. I've lived in Asia for close to 20 years and they care about having a reason to support teams now. No one cares about something that happened before they were born. We blew our best opportunity of success when the premier league launched. If we look backwards instead of forwards we'll blow another one.

So my question to you is what's the strategy once you divorce history?

Get good? Win trophies?

That's not a strategy. Everyone wants that.