Anyone read Duncs book yet?


Comparing a La Liga winner and CL and EL winner with the galloot?

Lol.
Comparing a La Liga winner and CL and EL winner with the galloot?

Lol.
Both are equally terrible, I still remember the Villa home game where Dunc basically got us playing hoof ball and chasing aimlessly whilst Benitez is a relic whose pure poison and leaves clubs in a worst position than when he arrives at them
 
As a fan of the last club he managed, the latest media round and the reports of what he’s said in his book hits a little different.

He was an appalling manager, he just doesn’t have it. He played terrible, blunt football, with no cutting edge. Horseshoe passing around the pitch, inability to win a game or even get shots on target were the main characteristics of his tenure.

Echo this at Forest Green. I couldn't see what he brought, managerial wise.

Sociable with the fans etc. etc.
 

Echo this at Forest Green. I couldn't see what he brought, managerial wise.

Sociable with the fans etc. etc.
I think part of it is both jobs were very odd ones for him to take. He's someone who'd spent most of his playing and coaching career at the top level - it's a big difference then going to do jobs at a much lower level that you probably don't understand that well or know the ins and outs of. Same thing applied to David Unsworth going to Oldham. Not saying either of them would have turned out great elsewhere but you'd have put decent money on them failing in the jobs they did take.
 
I think part of it is both jobs were very odd ones for him to take. He's someone who'd spent most of his playing and coaching career at the top level - it's a big difference then going to do jobs at a much lower level that you probably don't understand that well or know the ins and outs of. Same thing applied to David Unsworth going to Oldham. Not saying either of them would have turned out great elsewhere but you'd have put decent money on them failing in the jobs they did take.
Reading the book he was turned down by some better sides after interview, Blackburn was one, can't remember the others

I wonder with him and Unsworth how much talent they had versus 'jobs for the boys' - Kenwright was prone to that e.g. Jose Baxter

Edit - the counter argument to that is Carlo seemed to rate him, it's a tough one to call
 
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Reading the book he was turned down by some better sides after interview, Blackburn was one, can't remember the others

I wonder with him and Unsworth how much talent they had versus 'jobs for the boys' - Kenwright was prone to that e.g. Jose Baxter

Edit - the counter argument to that is Carlo seemed to rate him, it's a tough one to call
I get the feeling carlo liked him because he wasn't a sniveling little turd. Seems like there were some absolute horrors at the club who were trying to crawl up the arses of the senior management at every opportunity.

Brands, Barrett baxendale, unsworth and contract Dave do not come off well.
 

As a fan of the last club he managed, the latest media round and the reports of what he’s said in his book hits a little different.

He was an appalling manager, he just doesn’t have it. He played terrible, blunt football, with no cutting edge. Horseshoe passing around the pitch, inability to win a game or even get shots on target were the main characteristics of his tenure. He played players out of position, his tactics were negative and he continually made excuses about why results didn’t go his way - he complained about referees, plastic pitches, other teams ‘downing tools’. His signings were poor overall and he seemed to use them randomly- he gave a couple of guys their first starts during the relegation play offs, which was slightly odd and he released several of our best and most experienced players.

The really galling thing about him was the gap between the Big Dunc persona and the reality. He was negative and moany, continually complaining. When we were facing admin, he said that if we were deducted 15 points we were certain to go down. Well, we were deducted 15 points, lost several players, went through a season playing half a team of 18 year olds and didn’t go down and were miles better than we were under him. He clearly didn’t fancy it when the matey interviews ended and he had to do his job.
Is that you @davek
But seriously, complain all you like about his tactics etc and you may very be right, but I very much doubt he had much say in releasing players when the clubs on the cusp of administration.

From what I read at the time he went unpaid as well did he not?
I’m sure plenty of others would have walked given the state of things, wasn’t exactly Ancelotti walking into Madrid tbf, more of poison chalice.
 
Is that you @davek
But seriously, complain all you like about his tactics etc and you may very be right, but I very much doubt he had much say in releasing players when the clubs on the cusp of administration.

From what I read at the time he went unpaid as well did he not?
I’m sure plenty of others would have walked given the state of things, wasn’t exactly Ancelotti walking into Madrid tbf, more of poison chalice.
He absolutely did get a say in releasing players when he did. He released our club captain Sean Welsh to sign for one of the clubs competing directly with us, Queens Park. He also released one of our most solid performers for a nominal fee, Dave Carson. I know for a fact he did that, he didn’t have to - at this point the club weren’t in administration, he didn’t have to release these guys and he signed eight or nine players in the window, none of whom were really successful. He also signed his son, who is the worst footballer I’ve ever seen on a professional park and I’ve watched lower league Scottish football for 30 odd years. That’s not an exaggeration, I have played fives on my lunch break with better players.

He did go unpaid at the start of this season - I can’t fault him for that, he didn’t have to do it, fair play to him. However, he will get his money - he’s listed as a football creditor so we have to pay the money we owe to get out of admin. No complaints there, everyone should get their wages but it’s more accurate to say his money is deferred than he worked for free.

He apparently slates the club in his book, says our facilities were crap and we didn’t have any money for amenities etc. We have won Scottish cups, qualified for Europe, been an established top flight club with those same facilities, his comments just sound bitter. He also supported our then board and CEOs attempt to move the entire off field part of the club 150 miles from our city to cut costs, a move that would have been the death of our club. He let our board treat some our players appallingly - he told one that he’d be getting a new contract only for the guy to get an email telling him he was released a few weeks later; a club legend was stiffed for an operation on a ruptured ACL (our fans crowdfunded his surgery). He just sat back and did nothing and he could have stood up for his players - given his profile and contract he was basically unsackable.

I realise this is probably more than you or anyone else on here wants to know about the last few years of Inverness Caley Thistle so I’ll leave it there, I haven’t even mentioned the battery farm or Duran Duran gigs yet
 
Battering burglars
Drinking ale
Battering footballers
Feeding pigeons
Battering physios
Barlinnie
Getting sent off
Eating veggie burgers
Getting sacked

'An enthralling read' - Times Literary Review

'Couldn't put it down' - New Yorker

'Surely a Pulitzer Prize winner' - London Review of Books

That sounds slightly more interesting than say, Phil Neville's autobiography:

Passed it back
Passed it sideways
Passed it back
Passed it sideways
Passed it back
Passed it sideways
Etc
 

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