2024/25 Beto

[davids]

Agreed. But that isnt want I meant. Keeping him is more about the style of play we want to go for next season. If we are going to play possessionfootball he has less space available to him and he doesnt have the right skillset for that. No disrespect to him or his qualities but possessionfootball asks for a different kind of striker. I think he would be far less dangerous in these situations and will score less. His style is very well suited for counterattacking though, where there is a lot of space behind the opponents defence. If we are going for that style of play, I think we should definately keep him. But which playstyle we actually go for is up to the staff ofcourse, so they will have to think about stuff like this.

Can't see Moyse trying to play keep ball. More likely Forest Mk2

 

[Ming the Merciful]

Scores goals, works hard, great attitude, doesn't sulk, popular in dressing room and with fans.

Love him, keep him.

 

[Sharpattack]

Good on a one one providing he doesn’t have to think and just hits it.

 

[Neiziro]

Think will be from his agent dont really kno what moyes has said behind closed doors and talks about us getting back into talks with dcl

Typically if it's from Sky that usually does come from agents trying to drum up interest. Wonder if his agent is thinking if we're offering DCL a new deal he might not play as much next season (which would also be utter madness on our part considering Beto has done more in 4 months than DCL has in about 5 years)

 

[PhilM]

Can't help but like the big galoot.

I’m adverse to selling him. I know it would be money in the bank and he’s not great on the eye, but he’s completely committed and will score.

As Sgt Hartman says in Full Metal Jacket, “He’s got guts, and guts is enough.”

 

[hallamblue]

In a way I look forward to the day when we're too good for Beto, but we're nowhere near that yet

 

[maccavennie]

It’s not really 10 in 17 though is it?

Yes he’s scored 10 this season, and yes he’s started 17 games. We can’t just ignore the other appearances though.

Goals per minute he does have a very good record though.
I’m not his biggest fan by any stretch, but I’m finding it more difficult to argue against him

13 starts and 8 goals in the league. 12 of those starts under Moyes (with 7 goals) and only 1 start under Dyche

2 starts in League Cup and 1 goal
2 starts in FA Cup and 1 goal

He was shockingly underused by Dyche even when DCL wasn't scoring. Check his stats, 8 games where he didn't get a minute and the most minutes he had as a sub was Saints away (26m) where he should have buried a header and was so unfortunate to have a great goal ruled out for offside.

So, from a real raw goals standpoint, he's miles ahead of what others provide. He's missed about 6 great chances as well so think of how insane his stats could have looked if he'd slotted the big chances missed against Brentford, Wolves, the rs, Southampton

 

[mikel_88]

We're not Man City mate. It would be a big risk to try and change our style. There's a fair chance we'd have a season like Leicester have just had, where you try and play possession football and get picked off by better teams who then break on you and you get tonked every week.

Dont think going to do a massive change of style but be similar, like adding actual pace to the team. To counter attack teams faster, cant see moyes changing it much differently from now.

 

[mahermi1]

If we pick up a decent wide player who can consistently get to the dead ball line and put a decent cross in and a creative midfielder who can play a decent through ball we won't notice his weaknesses.

Not saying by any stretch he's as good as Lukaku, but he does have similar traits, speed, strength and an eye for a goal. Don't forget though Lukaku scored most of his goals for Everton in a much better team.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

I’m adverse to selling him. I know it would be money in the bank and he’s not great on the eye, but he’s completely committed and will score.

As Sgt Hartman says in Full Metal Jacket, “He’s got guts, and guts is enough.”

He is definitely improving and it's not outrageous to suggest he is the biggest goal threat of all our strikers and as such he needs to be in the squad until we can get better.

 

[mahermi1]

13 starts and 8 goals in the league. 12 of those starts under Moyes (with 7 goals) and only 1 start under Dyche

2 starts in League Cup and 1 goal
2 starts in FA Cup and 1 goal

He was shockingly underused by Dyche even when DCL wasn't scoring. Check his stats, 8 games where he didn't get a minute and the most minutes he had as a sub was Saints away (26m) where he should have buried a header and was so unfortunate to have a great goal ruled out for offside.

So, from a real raw goals standpoint, he's miles ahead of what others provide. He's missed about 6 great chances as well so think of how insane his stars could have looked if he'd slotted the big chances missed against Brentford, Wolves, the rs, Southampton

Can't quote them but I think Beto has had a few close offside goals, those stats could be even better.

 

[mistuhp]

It’s not really 10 in 17 though is it?

Yes he’s scored 10 this season, and yes he’s started 17 games. We can’t just ignore the other appearances though.

Goals per minute he does have a very good record though.
I’m not his biggest fan by any stretch, but I’m finding it more difficult to argue against him

He's played a grand total of 205 minutes off the bench all season, so you can add 3 games to the starts amount and he's still a 1 goal every 2 games striker.

 

[salmon fingers]

I know it wasn't a Moyes choice to give Beto an opportunity it was an injury to DCL that gave him his chance but I don't remember a more important impact to the team since Kevin Campbell. We have seen better players but having such a impact in relegation fight?

 

[maccavennie]

Can't quote them but I think Beto has had a few close offside goals, those stats could be even better.

The Southampton away one I think was am absolute piss take of a goal to chalk off. Unlucky against the rs to have one chalked off.

He's got massive flaws which are there for all to see and I don't think Moyes will have him as first choice. But we've got to be very careful in selling a striker who actually has proven he has goals in him, far more than DCL, Broja and Chermiti and looked more robust than all 3 combined.

 

[dannyboy]

The Southampton away one I think was am absolute piss take of a goal to chalk off. Unlucky against the rs to have one chalked off.

He's got massive flaws which are there for all to see and I don't think Moyes will have him as first choice. But we've got to be very careful in selling a striker who actually has proven he has goals in him, far more than DCL, Broja and Chermiti and looked more robust than all 3 combined.

His link up play improved for a few weeks but think it's reverted to type again which is a shame. Definitely a better goal option than anyone else at the club apart from Keane. In an ideal world we'd want better but we aren't at that point yet. Far from it.