The State Pension

[Yarrgh]

Agreed. Voting preference should be made public for everyone. Vote reform and you can live in your anti science utopia, be barred from using the NHS and only be allowed to eat minging old person British food.

Are you quoting direct from the Reform manifesto?

 

[hallamblue]

How much is NI in total and how much is spent on pensions, welfare, and the NHS?

I reckon I'll have paid about £250,000 in NI by the time I retire. But that apparently doesn't entitle me to anything. The Tories plan was basically to run down the health service and benefits systems so the poor die earlier and never have to claim their pension. Labour are ruining that by investing in the NHS.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I reckon I'll have paid about £250,000 in NI by the time I retire. But that apparently doesn't entitle me to anything. The Tories plan was basically to run down the health service and benefits systems so the poor die earlier and never have to claim their pension. Labour are ruining that by investing in the NHS.

If Juan is correct, I doubt that would even cover your NHS cover.

 

[Littlesue]

I reckon I'll have paid about £250,000 in NI by the time I retire. But that apparently doesn't entitle me to anything. The Tories plan was basically to run down the health service and benefits systems so the poor die earlier and never have to claim their pension. Labour are ruining that by investing in the NHS.

Don't you get a state pension?

 

[hallamblue]

If Juan is correct, I doubt that would even cover your NHS cover

I've barely used the NHS

 

[hallamblue]

Don't you get a state pension?

Not for another 13 years . The life expectancy is actually decreasing in the poorest areas so most people are dead before state pension age

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I've barely used the NHS

I think that's irrelevant when you're talking about "insurance".

 

[Littlesue]

Not for another 13 years . The life expectancy is actually decreasing in the poorest areas so most people are dead before state pension age

"most"?? I doubt that

 

[COYBL25]

Pensions and bike insurance. It's how I spend my Saturday nights.

You should get together sometime with @Joey66 sometime, he conversation would be most illuminating.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

You should get together sometime with @Joey66 t sometime, he conversation would be most illuminating.

Maybe if he remembers my birthday this year.

 

[Joey66]

You should get together sometime with @Joey66 t sometime, he conversation would be most illuminating.

I know a place for him on the IOW Pankhurst

Maybe if he remembers my birthday this year.

I will buy you a gun

 

[Iana]

You need to bear in mind that this guff about people living longer is the problem, it isn't. The problem is, successive governments changing the laws and rules to access NI contributions and use it as a taxation.
NI was supposed to fund pensions as well as social security and the NHS.
They've used the contributions to cover tax breaks for those that don't need it and offset corporation taxes that aren't being paid at all.
We're one of the lowest pensions in the West and nowhere near a liveable income. So, sod off basically

Even from the early days of the NHS the NI contribution did not cover the costs and that’s why prescription charges were introduced a couple of years post 1948.The gap has just got bigger over nearly 80 years.
NI contributions cover approx 25% of the current NHS annual costs and that equates to about £45bn per annum.

50% of all welfare spending is going on pensions and as more people become eligible there needs to be a debate on how to deal with it and future funding.

One of the debates is to discuss paying NI on all pensions,state or private, as well as merging Income Tax and NI so there is just one tax rate.

 

[hallamblue]

"most"?? I doubt that

You're right it's a slight exaggeration. Average life expectancy for a man in Blackpool is 73 so they'll get 6 years pension before they die.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I know a place for him on the IOW Pankhurst

I will buy you a gun

I think she died Joe. Something to do with a horse.

 

[Littlesue]

You're right it's a slight exaggeration. Average life expectancy for a man in Blackpool is 73 so they'll get 6 years pension before they die.

8 if they died now surely?