New Everton Stadium - Hill Dickinson Stadium

AndyRJ said:
To be fair whilst I agree these are a bit naff, they will only be temporary. I think the Collingwood Dock containers only have a 5 years licence from Peel, no idea about the tent but that land value will increase astronomically if TFG (and others) start developing around the ground. Someone will develop both those sites within the next 5-10 years i'm sure of it.

Assuming everything with Liverpool Waters and the Surrounding 10 Streets Area kicks on, that whole part of the city will be unrecognisable in 20-30 years time. Needs private investment though...and lots of it!
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I`d say it would take less time than that, but as you say it will take private investment to get it done, and that might be something TFG guys might be looking at. The Liverpool one development made a huge impact on the city center and the area around BMD would do the same.
 

I'd say walking along Edmonton High Road to the match whether coming from Seven Sisters side or the A406 it doesn't differ much from the approaches to Goodison in particular County Road in terms of what the areas are like.

I've been in the home concourses at Tottenham a few times it's too early to compare our offerings from Bramley-Moore whilst in the testing stages but certainly Spurs have quite high standards of what they serve up and offer catering wise to the general admission areas.

As an example at their home match v Frankfurt I bought a burger and waffle fries for £11.50 very decent size portion and quality burger some of the photos I've seen from the test menu at BM has looked over priced and a bit naff. But it's only a tester so hopefully they will have things ready properly come August.

Although I will always think (with my blue tinted glasses on) that Bramley-Moore looks better than Spurs stadium I dont think Spurs and in particular Levy would've considered designing their stadium like ours because looking at it externally there's so much wasted space in particular behind the seating bowl in the upper areas exposed where other teams including Spurs would have maximised as much hospitality areas and concourse space as was possible.
 
Jacko93 said:
That has a very negative start. One that makes me question the intention of it.
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Same here. It’s filled with so many inaccuracies that I’m surprised the Guardian has run it. It’s just clickbait with ideas above its station. Infuriatingly some of the comments afterwards have taken it as fact, with one saying that tax payers shouldn’t have paid for Everton’s stadium. Chance would be a fine thing!
 

Timbucktoo said:
I`d say it would take less time than that, but as you say it will take private investment to get it done, and that might be something TFG guys might be looking at. The Liverpool one development made a huge impact on the city center and the area around BMD would do the same.
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If it was a single developer then i'd tend to agree with you but there are multiple landowners/ stakeholders involved, particularly across the 10 streets masterplan. The Central Docks area of Liverpool Waters is mooted to be a 10-15 year timescale and if TFG secure Nelson Dock then we'll certainly see some signficant development there also within the next 5-10 years. I think the area between those two will take longer as will the 10 Streets Masterplan but you never know. LCC want to deliver 2,000 new homes per year for the next 5 years and one of the most obvious places to put all those is in and around the Central/ Northern Docks.

This part of the city will become a destination in it's own right in my opinion and not before time. Peel first announced their Liverpool Waters Masterplan around two decades ago and it's barely progressed!

Really hope TFG are able to secure Nelson Dock and do something exciting with it.
 
brieverton said:
I stopped reading after a few paragraphs. It was patronising and dismissive from the first sentence. The rest of it seems laden with inaccuracies.
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This, one of the final paragraphs, shows a lack of any understanding as to what the PL has become. The most expensive tickets in the country aren't for the newest grounds. In some cases they are for the oldest.

Our GA tickets will still be lower than those at Liverpool for equivalent seats, and likely much much lower than those at Old Trafford.

Even where public subsidies are modest the financial effects of new construction ripple out to supporters via higher ticket prices and more expensive amenities; eventually a day at the stadium becomes an occasional luxury rather than a regular pleasure. Tradition, community, rootedness are, we’re always told, at the heart of any new stadium project, but inevitably they become diluted once the fresh concrete stands are filled. New stadiums don’t just transform the physical reality in which a team plays; they change the team’s fan base too, and the culture attached to it. And perhaps that’s the real point inherent in the uniformity of modern stadium design: to eradicate the gnarly, unruly, difficult, and – let’s be honest – poor supporters, to kick out the kooks and the crazies, and replace them all with docile, obedient consumers ready to stand, sing, and spend on cue.
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Rough areas aren't what they used to be, haha. I sometimes used to walk into to town from my old school, past the Radcliffe estate and then through the Piggeries. I doubt that there is anything remotely close in terms of roughness near County Rd or Spurs' ground. Just working class areas that look a bit tatty in parts tbh.

Location can certainly add to the whole matchday experience, and BMD will hopefully one day aspire to great things in that respect.... but the key element will always be the quality of the stadium itself. Similarly, I've never been overly drawn to stadium externals. In reality, they add little or nothing to the matchday experience, and tbh many of the greatest stadia in the world are plain to the point of austerity on the outside for that reason.

Internally, the side stands at NWHL are far superior to those at BMD. Corporate contained in their own dedicated tiers overlapping with 80 super suites also in their own tier. All over more levels. Our South Stand is much smaller than theirs, but I prefer the way ours turns the corners. If our South Stand is ever extended by 10 rows, as Binman showed previously, then that could really sway it. Of course for flexibility NWHL easily trumps BMD due to the moving pitch.
 
fitzyefc said:
Who cares what the area around the ground is like? I go there to watch footy not to sightsee.
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Most do, however the more picturesque the setting the more chance of increased sponsorship deals. And the nicer the surroundings the more chance people stay around the area long after the game, as it becomes its own destination. That also puts something back into our club if people are there to use our facilities.
 
14_dollars said:
What a spiteful and ill-informed article that is.

The author is

aaron.timms@gmail.com

if you fancy saying hello and have a nice day to him.
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Says everything about the piece when the end of the article states it was amended to show the correct architect. If he couldn’t get that simple fact right the first time around what makes me want to take the rest of the articles seriously. Defo a southern kopite.
 
SLAVEN BILIC said:
Says everything about the piece when the end of the article states it was amended to show the correct architect. If he couldn’t get that simple fact right the first time around what makes me want to take the rest of the articles seriously. Defo a southern kopite.
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If the Friedkins mean business, Aaron Timms should be taken for a nice drive in the countryside.
 

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