6 + 2 Point Deductions

I've seen a lot of Everton fans being angry at Forest fans or peed off with Forest online.
Forest arent the enemy here.
The top six clearly run the show and are happy to see the other clubs scrap amongst themselves.
All six of them got away with trying to ruin the league.
City and Chelsea are rotton to the core
and here we are arguing about who got the shaft worse (clearly Everton)
How Masters can keep his job after this charade of a season is beyond me
but even if he goes, the scab six will hand pick his successor.
 
No other way to explain it, really. Forest went full on teacher's pet from day one, while we at first tried to drag things out (charitable interpretation) or even outright lie to them about stuff (their interpretation) before eventually capitulating anyway. But because we didn't bow down on day one, we got hammered for it.
"We give you this unfair punishment AND YOU SHOULD BE PLEASED ABOUT IT, OR ELSE!"

Aye fair enough, PL.
 
Forest just realised statement absolutely going mental at premier league decision, but not saying if appealing or not...v odd
Nottingham Forest is extremely disappointed with the decision of the Commission to impose a sanction on the Club of four points, to be applied with immediate effect.

Notwithstanding our disappointment, we thank the Commission for agreeing to deal with this matter on an expedited basis. The Club considers it to be essential for the integrity of the league to have charges resolved in the season in which they are issued.

We were extremely dismayed by the tone and content of the Premier League’s submissions before the Commission.

After months of engagement with the Premier League, and exceptional cooperation throughout, this was unexpected and has harmed the trust and confidence we had in the Premier League.

That the Premier League sought a sanction of eight points as a starting point was utterly disproportionate when compared to the nine points that their own rules prescribe for insolvency.

We were also surprised that the Premier League gave no consideration at all to the unique circumstances of the Club and its mitigation. In circumstances where this approach is followed by future PSR commissions, it would make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, for newly promoted clubs without parachute payments to compete, thus undermining the integrity and competitiveness of the Premier League.

Whilst the Premier League may have called into question the Club’s business plan, the Club maintains that it responsibly balanced compliance with PSR with important investment into the squad to give us the ability to compete in the league for the first time in over 20 years.

Even after the Club had missed the PSR reporting deadline, it still took steps to ensure Brennan Johnson was sold before the end of the transfer window. That was a clear demonstration of our respect and support for PSR.

The Commission's decision raises issues of concern for all aspirant clubs. The player transfer market is a highly specialised trading environment that cannot be compared to the sale of normal products and services.

There will be occasions when a player transfer cannot be completed in the first half of a transfer window and can only be completed at the end of that window. This should not be a reason for the condemnation of a club. For this not to be recognised by the Commission or the Premier League should be a matter of extreme concern for all fans of our national game.

Of wider concern for all aspirant clubs is the disturbing effect this decision will have on the operation of the player trading model. This is the only model by which clubs outside of the small group at the very top end of the Premier League can realistically advance up the football pyramid.

The rationale of the Commission is that clubs should only invest after they have realised a profit on their player development. This reasoning destroys mobility in the football pyramid and the effect of the decision will be to drastically reduce the room for manoeuvre for all such clubs, leading to the stagnation of our national game.

We believe that the high levels of cooperation the Club has shown during this process, and which are confirmed and recorded in the Commission's decision, were not reciprocated by the Premier League.


lol lol lol lol lol
 

Yep, so our hearing next week will be a completely different panel so in theory can just pick a number from 1 to 10 and go with that.
If I were a betting man, I'd put money on 4 points. Only because it takes us back to our original 10 points and I think the IC and PL will feel like that makes them look justified in their original decision on the first case.
 

I've seen a lot of Everton fans being angry at Forest fans or peed off with Forest online.
Forest arent the enemy here.
The top six clearly run the show and are happy to see the other clubs scrap amongst themselves.
All six of them got away with trying to ruin the league.
City and Chelsea are rotton to the core
and here we are arguing about who got the shaft worse (clearly Everton)
How Masters can keep his job after this charade of a season is beyond me
but even if he goes, the scab six will hand pick his successor.
Screw forest and the rest of them even that statement and what they said to the leavue about us. They have used the club, is us against all of them, every club in this league can do one for me
 
If I were a betting man, I'd put money on 4 points. Only because it takes us back to our original 10 points and I think the IC and PL will feel like that makes them look justified in their original decision on the first case.
Well it also opens the stupid punishment door - 4 points for Forest, 6 points for us (because we didn't sit down and agree with the punishment or whatever???) and then 4 more for us because... I dunno, we play in Blue let's say.

Why is it 4, why do we have 6, what's the point of these if it's basically Numberwang with point deductions?
 
Nottingham Forest is extremely disappointed with the decision of the Commission to impose a sanction on the Club of four points, to be applied with immediate effect.

Notwithstanding our disappointment, we thank the Commission for agreeing to deal with this matter on an expedited basis. The Club considers it to be essential for the integrity of the league to have charges resolved in the season in which they are issued.

We were extremely dismayed by the tone and content of the Premier League’s submissions before the Commission.

After months of engagement with the Premier League, and exceptional cooperation throughout, this was unexpected and has harmed the trust and confidence we had in the Premier League.

That the Premier League sought a sanction of eight points as a starting point was utterly disproportionate when compared to the nine points that their own rules prescribe for insolvency.

We were also surprised that the Premier League gave no consideration at all to the unique circumstances of the Club and its mitigation. In circumstances where this approach is followed by future PSR commissions, it would make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, for newly promoted clubs without parachute payments to compete, thus undermining the integrity and competitiveness of the Premier League.

Whilst the Premier League may have called into question the Club’s business plan, the Club maintains that it responsibly balanced compliance with PSR with important investment into the squad to give us the ability to compete in the league for the first time in over 20 years.

Even after the Club had missed the PSR reporting deadline, it still took steps to ensure Brennan Johnson was sold before the end of the transfer window. That was a clear demonstration of our respect and support for PSR.

The Commission's decision raises issues of concern for all aspirant clubs. The player transfer market is a highly specialised trading environment that cannot be compared to the sale of normal products and services.

There will be occasions when a player transfer cannot be completed in the first half of a transfer window and can only be completed at the end of that window. This should not be a reason for the condemnation of a club. For this not to be recognised by the Commission or the Premier League should be a matter of extreme concern for all fans of our national game.

Of wider concern for all aspirant clubs is the disturbing effect this decision will have on the operation of the player trading model. This is the only model by which clubs outside of the small group at the very top end of the Premier League can realistically advance up the football pyramid.

The rationale of the Commission is that clubs should only invest after they have realised a profit on their player development. This reasoning destroys mobility in the football pyramid and the effect of the decision will be to drastically reduce the room for manoeuvre for all such clubs, leading to the stagnation of our national game.

We believe that the high levels of cooperation the Club has shown during this process, and which are confirmed and recorded in the Commission's decision, were not reciprocated by the Premier League.


lol lol lol lol lol
Translated: "What a win."
 

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