6 + 2 Point Deductions

[Efcjake]

I'd refuse to kick a ball until they explain themselves.

 

[nick_waters]

I hope we have deployed the same cooperation as Forest did for the second breach investigation. If so we can hope to have just the 3rd year punished to prevent double jeopardy, which would be a 2 points deduction, and then have 2 points reinstated for said cooperation.

 

[IV(AC)]

So Forest get 60% of the Everton sanction.
It all adds up

 

[Toffeeslam]

So how did Forest only get a 4 point deduction and we got 6 ?

How much will we get next time around ?

 

[neil999]

DCMS reaction to this will be interesting

 

[Furey1878]

What section of the report is this?

Was in this post here

 

[tadpole]

The reason why Everton's sanction was higher, according to the Judgment, is that incorrect information was supplied to the Premier League. So this seems to set the bar at 4 points for future sanctions, where there are no aggravating factors.

 

[Ruairi77]

777 will not have any effect on our PSR calculation until next year.

right but the interest we're paying servicing their loans counts against PSR and if it was equity, it wouldnt. So the PL's inability to decide is affecting our PSR calculation for next year. Limiting our ability to compete due to their incompetence.

 

[Tin-Tin]

 

[pfim]

Now it's known I guess:

You can purposely exceed the PSR calculation (which is going away anyhow) as long as you inform the PL promptly and cooperate.

 

[HalfTimeSayers]

So am I, but if it leads to some kind of leniency towards our second charge, then i think it is in our best interests.

It still stinks, but maintaining that any breach must result in a six point deduction doesn't necessarily help us. Another six point deduction, 12 in total, is just too much for us to cope with and we will go down.

I am therefore HOPING that we will be given less than six in the second hearing.

It’s just as likely for our next IC to rule “we don’t know how Forests charge was reduced to 4. Nor do we understand how Everton’s appeal resulted in 4 points returned. Based on the factors at hand 1 point deduction in each of the next 12 seasons and a 526 window transfer embargo applying to both men’s and women’s squads.”

 

[Mozza1987]

The reason why Everton's sanction was higher, according to the Judgment, is that incorrect information was supplied to the Premier League. So this seems to set the bar at 4 points for future sanctions, where there are no aggravating factors.

But that was rubbished in the appeal which was why they gave us 4 points back.

 

[pfim]

right but the interest we're paying servicing their loans counts against PSR and if it was equity, it wouldnt. So the PL's inability to decide is affecting our PSR calculation for next year. Limiting our ability to compete due to their incompetence.

They have decided. If it's not explicitly related to the stadium (stated in loan docs), it counts against the PSR number.

 

[Smurph]

Oh my

THAT'S NUMBERWANG

I will speculate wildly that if it wasn't for needing to stay co-operative for our second charge and 777 decision we would be flying in two footed at this from a legal POV, and that might still happen.

 

[Tin-Tin]

If im Villa or Newcastle, be spending a fair bit then just saying oh yeah we are sorry. Seems to work wonders. 4 points is nothing if the money buys quality