Confirmed Signing Idrissa Gueye

Do you want Gana back?

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It takes all walks of life. We don't know what half our current squads beliefs are, and if one came out with something that you didn't like or agree with, would that make a difference to you?
If any of our squad don't want to do the tiniest thing of wearing multi coloured laces to promote inclusion in football then absolutely that would make a difference to how I thought about that person.
 
You're massively underestimating the lure of the PL (and the wages that come with it) there. Unfashionable teams sign decent prospects all the time, I don't know why some of our fans always want us to be some sort of special case where things are somehow more difficult for us than for any other club.
They don't burden themselves with the dead wages we anchored ourselves with, which means they can carry some low-risk punts. The thin squad (and Moshiri's hubris) pushed us into chasing impact signings to chase Europe. That works fine as long as you don't brick the big spending windows as hard as we did, paying above-market wages in the process.

Leeds this summer and Villa last season, two clubs in a similar fix, funded a bunch of pricy transfers through the sale of major assets. That's the mess you're in when you're up against it. If you're stable like Southampton was for a good bit, you can get Mane and Van Dijk to sign from Celtic and Salzburg at reasonable fees, then sell them on for big gains. Now that the club is regularly in the bottom third, they're having to bottom-feed and hope.

As for the point @TheBigIguana raised, those clubs can sign those players because they didn't commit our sins. Palace is deficit spending to fund it, which they can do because they spent squat for a good long while. Brighton deficit spent a while back, then sold White and Bissouma to keep the train rolling. I would argue that if you're asking your DoF to hit the lottery the way Leicester did, you're asking too much.

Not all Prem destinations are equal in players' eyes. They have agents who understand this stuff and don't want to lose the client. Most Prem clubs can hijack most potential deals, as the agent will steer the player to those clubs and we can't outbid. It's why we raided Brighton and are trying to leverage Lampard's relationships with young Chelsea players. We can close those deals.
 

He's miles better than Doucoure and Allan as a partner for Gana. Just an absolute chasm.
I grant you he has the energy, or at least displayed it in the last few months. I'll allow him a month or two more to show that he can do it on a consistent basis. He has the attributes. That said, he badly needs to add assists and goals to his game especially since we have one striker now. No excuses for him to remain so goal shy.
 

They don't burden themselves with the dead wages we anchored ourselves with, which means they can carry some low-risk punts. The thin squad (and Moshiri's hubris) pushed us into chasing impact signings to chase Europe. That works fine as long as you don't brick the big spending windows as hard as we did, paying above-market wages in the process.

Leeds this summer and Villa last season, two clubs in a similar fix, funded a bunch of pricy transfers through the sale of major assets. That's the mess you're in when you're up against it. If you're stable like Southampton was for a good bit, you can get Mane and Van Dijk to sign from Celtic and Salzburg at reasonable fees, then sell them on for big gains. Now that the club is regularly in the bottom third, they're having to bottom-feed and hope.

As for the point @TheBigIguana raised, those clubs can sign those players because they didn't commit our sins. Palace is deficit spending to fund it, which they can do because they spent squat for a good long while. Brighton deficit spent a while back, then sold White and Bissouma to keep the train rolling. I would argue that if you're asking your DoF to hit the lottery the way Leicester did, you're asking too much.

Not all Prem destinations are equal in players' eyes. They have agents who understand this stuff and don't want to lose the client. Most Prem clubs can hijack most potential deals, as the agent will steer the player to those clubs and we can't outbid. It's why we raided Brighton and are trying to leverage Lampard's relationships with young Chelsea players. We can close those deals.
This point is completely unrelated to your original one though. You said it was hard for us to attract players because we’d finished 16th. That’s rubbish. The fact that we can’t afford people and have saddled ourselves with crap is hardly breaking news, we all know this, but we’d have absolutely no problem attracting players if we could afford it.
 
These 'short-term' signings have never worked for us. We could be needing to replace Allan (out of contract), Doucoure (out of contract) and Gueye all next summer.
I think they have in the past and very well….

Nigel Martyn
David Weir
Alan Stubbs
Kevin Campbell
Fist Donavan and Fernandez loans
Gareth Barry
Distan (ended up longer term)
 
If we are paying anything close to £10m then I think it's a terrible piece of business
Not really if you consider that we sold him to them for 30 million. We will have made 20 Million profit and have him back playing with us for a couple more years. Sounds pretty good to me tbh.
 

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