What happens to Lampard...

[Bohemian Toffee]

Needs to be a cheese on resignation option

6/10 would vote again

 

[nsno-chris]

Only applying the same criteria used to bash Benitez.

For example Benitez was blasted for not keeping Newcastle up when he had enough games to do so.
Lampard has had more than enough games and we were safe when he came in.

If we drop into the bottom 3 then he has performed much worse.

Is it double standards or was it just hatred of the guy.

No mate, what’s overlooked is by his loyalists is the following:
He had the entire preseason to install his game plan as well as condition the players
By his own admission he only gets players 85% match fit
He binned off two of our most creative outlets
He refused to change his style, and 99% of the time his preferred formation

So it’s not comparison at all, it’s trying to put out small fires whilst the house burns down.

 

[BlueToff]

"Harry Redknapp has revealed that he encouraged Frank Lampard to sign Dele Alli from Tottenham in January but questioned the midfielder’s decision to turn up to his first training sessions in a Rolls Royce"

I think you'll find Uncle Arry had a lot of influence in that signing. The problem with EFC social media is every signing is now Moshiri's fault and its further from the truth.

Mykolenko and Patterson were also both scouted by Brands.

Everton already had it lined up though. So maybe FL spoke to Redknapp, but it's not like he suggested signing Dele. He still signed off on it, still hasn't used him right IMO - so yeah, he's not blameless is he for it not working, but Everton had the deal lined up already. There were multiple reports earlier in Jan that Dele was waiting to find out who the Everton manager would be.

I know Myko and Patterson were both scouted by Brands, but he wasn't here when they were signed. Benitez and the idiots at the top were running the ship then, and decided to dish out Brands' list of potential targets and spend a combined £28m on them.

 

[BlueToff]

No mate, what’s overlooked is by his loyalists is the following:
He had the entire preseason to install his game plan as well as condition the players
By his own admission he only gets players 85% match fit
He binned off two of our most creative outlets
He refused to change his style, and 99% of the time his preferred formation

So it’s not comparison at all, it’s trying to put out small fires whilst the house burns down.

If we do go down, then I fail to find a defence for Lampard or the coaching team. I think the players are God awful and I did under Benitez but they should not be getting relegated and Lampard would have had 18 games - so half a season - to avoid the drop. We still probably only need 3-4 wins but that's like saying 5-6 wins out of 18 is all we asked for and really that should have been minimum.

So if he doesn't get that, then I fail to see a defence of him, no matter what came before, as bad as it was.

 

[Doubletree]

We need the ground, it’s the only thing that will make us compete in the future. Goodison is on its knees.

We will be forever a yo yo club imo if that’s not built.

Not having a go at you mate but sick of seeing this. Can anyone explain to me how this will help Everton compete and who will they be competing with?

 

[MisterJ]

And this is the choice Frank has... Does he play the player who's almost guaranteed to cost us a goal through a mistake, or the truly awful footballer who isn't even Championship level.

And yet some on here think sacking Frank will fix the problem!

We could get the worlds best manager, with the worlds best backroom coaching staff, and guess what? Keane would still make mistakes that cost us goals and Holgate would still be useless.

He's really on a hiding to nothing with these players. Stay up or not, you can be sure Frank knows who he wants out, and he has my full support if he gets rid of half this squad.

Neither, stick with Godfrey and Banthwaite; that's the future anyway

 

[mahermi1]

Hopefully gets sacked and the fans accept that we need a manager who makes us hard to beat and can organise a defence. We're clearly not good enough to play the style of football Frank wants us to play and he'll take us into the championship if we don't act now.

Wasn't Benitez supposed to be that manager ? Think people need to start learning its the players not being good enough for premier league football, sooner the better, how many managers do we have to sack ? We have players from about six different managers in this abomination of a team, this for me is one of the main reasons we are like this crap.

 

[EGWToffee]

Regardless of how out of his depth he looks who is going to come in and save us? We can’t sack now.

However, if we do stay up I just can’t see him taking this club forward.

 

[BlueToff]

Regardless of how out of his depth he looks who is going to come in and save us? We can’t sack now.

However, if we do stay up I just can’t see him taking this club forward.

But we're two mistakes from JJK/Godfrey away from having won the other day with a solid enough away performance. That's the thing. A Keane/Iwobi shocker at West Ham away from a point there because W Ham were doing f all.

 

[Nymzee]

There's absolutely no guarantee that we bounce back after a relegation. We cannot even allow that to be a possibility. If we stay up somehow, I'd like to think that would be the wake up call needed at board level to reset and start again.

I won't be surprised if Lampard gets the chop on Saturday if we're badly beaten.

I never said there'd be a guarantee? Fact is, none of us know what would happen to the club with relegation, we've never seen it.

 

[Kirkles]

Wasn't Benitez supposed to be that manager ? Think people need to start learning its the players not being good enough for premier league football, sooner the better, how many managers do we have to sack ? We have players from about six different managers in this abomination of a team, this for me is one of the main reasons we are like this crap.

Wasn't Benitez supposed to be that manager ? Think people need to start learning its the players not being good enough for premier league football, sooner the better, how many managers do we have to sack ? We have players from about six different managers in this abomination of a team, this for me is one of the main reasons we are like this crap.

He was always fighting a losing battle. If he set up defensively fans would boo and if he played more attacking we weren't good enough to do it.

 

[Dixieslaces]

I never said there'd be a guarantee? Fact is, none of us know what would happen to the club with relegation, we've never seen it.

I think there are comparable's that can be drawn on to show what the consequences may be though, Leeds, Villa, Newcastle, Forest, Wednesday etc are all modern day casualties. The thing that will undoubtedly do for us is the Financial mess we are in.

For me its not an option to even be considered and I'm not saying you have said that, as others have but there are case studies that have gone before that will give us an idea.

The other concern is that from what we have seen from our Board etc, while there may have to be a contingency plan in the event of relegation has it been given even more than a cursory glance? I m guessing we all know the answer to that.

Its a dreadful situation for sure.

if the worst happens, I cant see us recovering.

 

[Cameron Manning]

Wasn't Benitez supposed to be that manager ? Think people need to start learning its the players not being good enough for premier league football, sooner the better, how many managers do we have to sack ? We have players from about six different managers in this abomination of a team, this for me is one of the main reasons we are like this crap.

It should also be pointed out that there is not any team spirit among the players, they don’t cover for each other, don’t watch each other’s back, don’t talk or guide each other, never get angry with each other, just accept every defeat too easily, no comeback then repeat the same in every game. There also looks like there is two gangs in the club no togetherness, as when Richarlison scored the first penalty against Burnley it looked likeGordon was urging quite a few players, who seemed reluctant, to join in the celebrations. There also seemed a lack of unity in the squad while Benitez was manager with some siding with Digne and others not agreeing with him.

 

[LEONARD]

Sure he has made some dodgy selections since he came.

But he has inherited a complete fiasco of a club.

98% of the squad is not fit for purpose.

He can only shuffle the pack in so many ways.

Whatever is our fate, he needs to stay and see his contract out.

One of of problems is the absurd turnover of managers.

If we go down, the appointment of Benítez will surely be seen as the catalyst for this disaster of a season.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Everton already had it lined up though. So maybe FL spoke to Redknapp, but it's not like he suggested signing Dele. He still signed off on it, still hasn't used him right IMO - so yeah, he's not blameless is he for it not working, but Everton had the deal lined up already. There were multiple reports earlier in Jan that Dele was waiting to find out who the Everton manager would be.

I know Myko and Patterson were both scouted by Brands, but he wasn't here when they were signed. Benitez and the idiots at the top were running the ship then, and decided to dish out Brands' list of potential targets and spend a combined £28m on them.

All im saying mate is that this myth of Moshiri signing our players is exactly that - a myth.

Bar El Ghazi which was obviously included in the Digne deal the trio Brands/Benitez/Lampard have signed off all of our signings this season, Carlo signed James and Allan last summer and Brands got Doucoure and Godfrey in the door.