COYB75
Player Valuation: £2.5m
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the way the club is run means Lambert would have players bought that he didn't want, he would just be the latest 12 month manager before results tank him.
There are managers like Favre and Fonseca, and that Getaffe Martinez who I think would do a way better job.
Then there are managers with jobs like Ten Haag who probably wouldn't do it but should be approached.
Lambert is behind Dyche for me.
I worry at the thought of Benitez with cash and time.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
And how much did Nuno spend in the summer and how much did Benitez?
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Gilbert..
Player Valuation: £40m
Stephen Gibson
Player Valuation: £15m
I read an article earlier interviewing Ruban Dias of Man City. He said he doesn't have a preferred defensive partner as all the squad are trained & embedded with the same thinking & way of playing so the person next to him is just a name & should play pretty much the same way as anyone else would.
Our playing style has been a mess for years. Rafael has done nothing to change this so far. Regardless of which manager we've had it seems impossible to get this squad to do what a manager wants them to do & there is no continuity of play like you get with a Chelsea or a Man City or Liverpool etc. A few players have come in & briefly shone but they too eventually lose thier way & fall in line with the rest of the squad who drag eachother down further & further.
Add in the shockingly poor recruitment by the club which seems to be run by an owner who has zero clue how real recruitment should be done which has completely cut the legs out of our DoF who, like the players has fallen in line & got dragged down too.
Our owners solution has been to get a big name manager in to sort out his mess that he created & every time he does it gets worse & worse because nothing has changed & we are now at a point where he's run out of lives. His money can't get him out of the situation he has created this time.
We have to seek out a manager that is up & coming. Someone from another place outside of the normal pool our owner wants to shop in which seems to be only big name expensive bosses. I want someone who is doing well & has ambitions to want to manage a club like ours similar to when we recruited David Moyes from Preston. We need someone who hasn't been corrupted by massive money & silly agents but is also strong of mind & has a clear idea of what he wants & knows how to implement his ideas. I want someone who is used to nurturing talent who can work with a DoF who has experience recruiting young talent to work in a specific style. It feels like our DoF just does what Moshiri tells him to do. Moshi needs to learn to butt out of literally everything related to anything football. Marcel Brands needs to grow a pair & get on with doing the job he was brought in for with young recruitment. Hopefully they both realise this soon because until they do we will be buggered. Nothing can change until thier mindsets change.
The old guard on & off the pitch are quite frankly cancerous to us now. Thank your for your service but please bugger off & quickly. They are beyond capable of changing thier ways & drag everyone down with them. Players & staff, i can count on one hand the amount of them i think could actually adapt & give a crap & genuinely take on board a new way of thinking & progress. Big dunc please leave, get experience somewhere & if it works out then sure, I'll consider you an option for the future but for now please bugger off.
I refuse to believe that we should choose from Lampard or Rooney etc like others have suggested. There is a whole world out there of untapped talent. Talent that would love to manage us. Let's get someone on the way up instead of on the way down & get the same with the players too.
What scares me is that we have a couple of contracts done at the end of the season & I'm positive that Mosh will demand two big signings that turn out crap again rather than several alternative cheaper signings on lower wages that actually work in a system that everyone understands & plays in. So far, Rafael like all before him have failed to show any sort of system at all. How long does it take to show? It's also not good when your ideas only work with your best players. A good system should work or at least show itself even when your hit with injuries. I can't work out what Rafael has changed other than hold Digne back which isn't working. We still hoof, we still only cross, we still get easily closed down resulting in a Pickford hoof, we can't pass between the lines we don't show for eachother, there's no clever runs, no edge of the box interplay, our positioning is crap etc etc
Sorry for the rants about many things. I could've posted this in many other threads. Like many of us I'm just done with these guys now.
Our playing style has been a mess for years. Rafael has done nothing to change this so far. Regardless of which manager we've had it seems impossible to get this squad to do what a manager wants them to do & there is no continuity of play like you get with a Chelsea or a Man City or Liverpool etc. A few players have come in & briefly shone but they too eventually lose thier way & fall in line with the rest of the squad who drag eachother down further & further.
Add in the shockingly poor recruitment by the club which seems to be run by an owner who has zero clue how real recruitment should be done which has completely cut the legs out of our DoF who, like the players has fallen in line & got dragged down too.
Our owners solution has been to get a big name manager in to sort out his mess that he created & every time he does it gets worse & worse because nothing has changed & we are now at a point where he's run out of lives. His money can't get him out of the situation he has created this time.
We have to seek out a manager that is up & coming. Someone from another place outside of the normal pool our owner wants to shop in which seems to be only big name expensive bosses. I want someone who is doing well & has ambitions to want to manage a club like ours similar to when we recruited David Moyes from Preston. We need someone who hasn't been corrupted by massive money & silly agents but is also strong of mind & has a clear idea of what he wants & knows how to implement his ideas. I want someone who is used to nurturing talent who can work with a DoF who has experience recruiting young talent to work in a specific style. It feels like our DoF just does what Moshiri tells him to do. Moshi needs to learn to butt out of literally everything related to anything football. Marcel Brands needs to grow a pair & get on with doing the job he was brought in for with young recruitment. Hopefully they both realise this soon because until they do we will be buggered. Nothing can change until thier mindsets change.
The old guard on & off the pitch are quite frankly cancerous to us now. Thank your for your service but please bugger off & quickly. They are beyond capable of changing thier ways & drag everyone down with them. Players & staff, i can count on one hand the amount of them i think could actually adapt & give a crap & genuinely take on board a new way of thinking & progress. Big dunc please leave, get experience somewhere & if it works out then sure, I'll consider you an option for the future but for now please bugger off.
I refuse to believe that we should choose from Lampard or Rooney etc like others have suggested. There is a whole world out there of untapped talent. Talent that would love to manage us. Let's get someone on the way up instead of on the way down & get the same with the players too.
What scares me is that we have a couple of contracts done at the end of the season & I'm positive that Mosh will demand two big signings that turn out crap again rather than several alternative cheaper signings on lower wages that actually work in a system that everyone understands & plays in. So far, Rafael like all before him have failed to show any sort of system at all. How long does it take to show? It's also not good when your ideas only work with your best players. A good system should work or at least show itself even when your hit with injuries. I can't work out what Rafael has changed other than hold Digne back which isn't working. We still hoof, we still only cross, we still get easily closed down resulting in a Pickford hoof, we can't pass between the lines we don't show for eachother, there's no clever runs, no edge of the box interplay, our positioning is crap etc etc
Sorry for the rants about many things. I could've posted this in many other threads. Like many of us I'm just done with these guys now.
BrendanGOT
Player Valuation: £25m
It only takes a few bad eggs. A clear out is needed. I'd start with the players who've seen off the most managers and work my way down
malcson
Player Valuation: £10m
Hadn't seen that and the original suggestion was some what throw away because I don't really know anything about him. I like him a lot after that and I think he fits the mold of what many on here are saying we need, young, innovative up and coming coach. He needs success in his next appointment as well as his CV is very short at the moment so one bad appointment and his record is arnished.Is that you Sid?
Diego Martínez: ‘I saw English football and I had to experience it’ | Sid Lowe
Former Granada coach Diego Martínez has immersed himself in the Premier League and Championship since leaving the Spanish club in the summerwww.theguardian.com
hallamblue
Player Valuation: £35m
It's irrelevant. A manager has to use whatever tools are at his disposal. The reason he's paid £7 million a year is so he can compensate for shortcomings using tactical nous. He's shown no inkling of being able to do that so far.
ForeverBlue92
Player Valuation: £80m
I mean thats a lie.
"Only reason I would say Ten Hag is less of a risk is because he has at least taken Ajax to a CL semi final but he still would be a risk as the Eredivsie for all the top talent its produced and historic clubs the quality just isn't at the top 3 or 4 league's calibre."
malcson
Player Valuation: £10m
He's also showed on two occasions that he can't manage in the Premier League.
well, I don't think he's been successful for a long time now unless you rate the job he did at Newcastle which seems to have been similar to what Bruce did.
On the cash thing, maybe he'd do better but then again I fear for any manager with cash at Everton.
At the end of the day, the only manager there was almost unanimous approval for since Moyes left was Ancelotti and he's also the only one that wasn't fired.
If the club do get rid of Rafael, they need to appoint an interim manager and gauge the fan reaction to possible long term candidates.
No one manager will be as popular as the Ancelotti appointment but there'll be clear favorites like Galtier last time round.
The club needs to try and bring the fans back together behind a manager. In order to do that, they need to listen to the fans (and maybe the DoF!, if not, get rid)
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