Match Thread Brentford v Everton. Sun 28th November. 2pm

[Azza]

Is it me or is Allan's name on his shirt printed wonky?

Like it's not central it's starts further towards the right.

 

[everton fan number one]

This is a disaster we need a result here

 

[Toffeemeister]

Iwobi truly is one of the laziest players I’ve ever seen. Right up there with Siggurdson

Siggurdson has some quality and end product though.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Lost count of the amount of bad passes, bad decision making, bad control. Simple things made difficult all over the pitch. Really not professional. I'm starting to put this down to lack of footballing intelligence. And I dont think you can train stupidity out of this some players.

People complain about rudimentary football, but seriously does anyone think these players could do anything else? They can’t pass, they can’t control, they don’t jump for set pieces, they do stupid things all the time. Imagine trying to ask them to do anything complicated.

 

[Parker]

No it's not at all.

Carloball was actually effective. It was crap and he couldn't get out of it towards the end of the season, that's on him, and he didn't know how to get this standard of players playing footy again.

But, Benitez has 100% made it worse. There is no organisation, no tactical flexibility, he is insisting on 4-4-1-1, he is insisting on crossing to nobody and hoofing up to Rondon.

Yeah, the players are poor, but they're being managed awfully.

It's the job of the coach to, believe it or not, coach the players. This Brentford side doesn't have better players. It has a better coach and a better plan. To say "the players are crap what's the manager supposed to do?" Is an absolute cop out. Ancelotti had these challenging for Europe.

 

[Bob Latchford]

The cowardice is staggering. Coleman on the ball then and everyone was hiding from the pass.

That's not on Benitez. They really are a bunch of horrible cowards.

As a group they are a spineless embarrassment

 

[welshtoffee]

Rafael looks absolutely shell-shocked, can see him walking soon

Too stubborn to walk, he wants the mega payout

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

None of our players turn when they receive a ball in space, they take about 3 unnecessary touches before sending it back where it came from.

 

[brucemate]

Iwobi jogging over there to press the defense when they were under pressure. Horrible excuse for a footballer. Rafael deserves the sack for picking this lump yet again.

This, he actually slows down alittle as he closes in so as to avoid contact. Does it most of the time

 

[diggerdestroyer]

Lost count of the amount of bad passes, bad decision making, bad control. Simple things made difficult all over the pitch. Really not professional. I'm starting to put this down to lack of footballing intelligence. And I dont think you can train stupidity out of this some players.

Rafael needed to make an example there. Passes 3 or 4 yards off when not pressed is not acceptable and the norm at everton. Sloppy play is acceptable and commonplace with us

 

[Sharpies volley]

Has Iwobi done anything yet?

His hair by the look of it

 

[Toffe3m4n]

Our set pieces are abysmal

 

[Houghty19]

I don't care who you put up front anybody couldn't be as bad as rondon

 

[cockneytoffee]

I thought those fans in the away end who could barely watch because the sun in their eyes were the luckiest of us, then the clouds come out for them. Cursed.

 

[BlueToff]

As a group they are a spineless embarrassment

I agree.

Managed awfully to boot.