Everton Summer transfers 2021

[Stuartisitc1878]

Spot on here!

It could obviously go the other way and there recruitment is spot on!
But there is no point crying and whinging about what other teams are doing when we genuinely dont know how it will work out! Either could get a Gbamin esq injury, could not fit how the team wants to play, or just something as simple as struggle with Premier League pace and physicality!
They could obviously set the world alite

Only thing we can control is what we do!

I’m trying to be look at things as positively as possible and it’s not easy but really trying to be a glass half full type of guy, I’ll say… as things stand right now, with no more incomings or outgoings there is an argument we are stronger than last season. We’ve lost Bernard but he struggled with this league and we replaced him with two functional, quicker, stronger wingers who may not be top level but they offer far more balance to the squad and hopefully get us up the pitch quicker and create chances which we’ll need as we’ll be without our current number 10 (not that he did much)…. but we still have James who can play there as well as Iwobi (I know!! like I said, being positive really isn’t easy) and with JPG back from injury it could free up Doucoure to get forward more like he did at Watford where he was a real goal threat.

We’ve lost Josh King but we’ve Got Moise Kean back so I don’t think we’re weaker there. The real area of concern is RB, Coleman can’t play an entire season anymore and Kenny isn’t good enough but other than that we are no weaker than last year and we have a manager who will actually coach these players rather than just say ‘Play’. Whether we’ve improved enough to climb the table or keep up with the teams around us spending big I have no idea but we certainly aren’t relegation fodder. If the club can find a way to spend and get that RB we desperately need and the players respond to Benitez then I think we could be in and around Europe again.
I'll be negative again tomorrow

 

[Bluewolf]

Having known they were going to be selling Grealish, they were able to get ahead of the market and pick up the players they need.
You can pretty much guarantee that they wouldn't have got Buendia for £20m AFTER the Grealish deal...

If we had a £100m saleable asset then we may have been in a similar position

You're right They wouldn't of gotten him for that after they sold grealish because the bought him for £33m rising to £38m before they sold him

 

[sharkey1001]

….well, the defined system (under Koeman/Walsh) was that either the Manager or DoF could identify targets and negotiate deals but they had to be endorsed by both. That resulted in both bringing players in for the same positions, it was a right mess.

Not sure how it works now, i get the impression Brands suggests targets for Benitez consideration whereas Benitez selects targets that Brands brings in if the budget allows.

Koeman bought Klassan
Walsh bought Vlasic
Kenwright bought Rooney
Moshiri bought Sigurdsson

And Barkley was better than them all... was agreed to be sold for £35m. His agent told him to reject terms because Chelsea would throw him £5m in additional signing on fees and buy him for £15m in January as he was injured.

We are a complete joke in the transfer market.

• Bolasie - £28m, loaned out a few times and then released
• Tosun - £28m, loaned out a few times and will be released
• Walcott - £20m, loaned out and then released
• Schneiderlin - £24m, rotted in reserves and then sold for £2m
• Bernard - Roma wanted him last summer for £15m. Some Chinese club wanted him for £9m in Jan....Rotted in reserves and then released
• Klassan - £24m, played as one of 5 number 10's in the side, sold for £12m after 6 months
• WIlliams - £12m, one of the worst players I have ever seen. Released.
• Cuco Martina - £35k a week for 3 years. Worst signing in our history, and he was a free! 28 and been available for 2 years and has probably had 0 offers. He cannot play football.
• Sigurdsson. £45m. Brought in to score free kicks - scored 0 in 3 years. brought in to provide set-piece assists... less than 3 in 3 years. Up until May, he was up their with Cuco the clown and Niasse for our worst ever signing.
• Moise Kean. Only club in world football to have PSG want one of our players and we can't get them to pay ANYTHING. £60m for an average right-back, and they offer us a loan fee and % of his salary. We will no doubt end up loaning him again.

We need to shift Kenny, Delph, Gomes, Sigurdsson & Tosun. I doubt we could negotiate £5m for the lot.

How can a multi-million pound business be run so so poorly?

 

[roy vernon]

As has been said by @GrandOldTeam Brands has not improved us in his 3 years here and this is correct. Moshiri, new stadium apart, has wasted a fortune in his 5 years and taken us backwards. Nobody can complain about his willingness to provide funds, however, his judgement on football matters, and his judgment on who to take advice from on football matters is, to say the least questionable.

Ultimately the blame lays with Moshiri, if he doesn’t trust Brands to have the final decision on football matters, then he should sack him and employ somebody he does have confidence in.

 

[sharkey1001]

So he'd alternate in a midfield 3 with Gbamin, Doucoure and Allan?

No mate, he is going to slot in beside Riquelme and Sean Davis.

 

[DanEFC92]

Koeman bought Klassan
Walsh bought Vlasic
Kenwright bought Rooney
Moshiri bought Sigurdsson

And Barkley was better than them all... was agreed to be sold for £35m. His agent told him to reject terms because Chelsea would throw him £5m in additional signing on fees and buy him for £15m in January as he was injured.

We are a complete joke in the transfer market.

• Bolasie - £28m, loaned out a few times and then released
• Tosun - £28m, loaned out a few times and will be released
• Walcott - £20m, loaned out and then released
• Schneiderlin - £24m, rotted in reserves and then sold for £2m
• Bernard - Roma wanted him last summer for £15m. Some Chinese club wanted him for £9m in Jan....Rotted in reserves and then released
• Klassan - £24m, played as one of 5 number 10's in the side, sold for £12m after 6 months
• WIlliams - £12m, one of the worst players I have ever seen. Released.
• Cuco Martina - £35k a week for 3 years. Worst signing in our history, and he was a free! 28 and been available for 2 years and has probably had 0 offers. He cannot play football.
• Sigurdsson. £45m. Brought in to score free kicks - scored 0 in 3 years. brought in to provide set-piece assists... less than 3 in 3 years. Up until May, he was up their with Cuco the clown and Niasse for our worst ever signing.
• Moise Kean. Only club in world football to have PSG want one of our players and we can't get them to pay ANYTHING. £60m for an average right-back, and they offer us a loan fee and % of his salary. We will no doubt end up loaning him again.

We need to shift Kenny, Delph, Gomes, Sigurdsson & Tosun. I doubt we could negotiate £5m for the lot.

How can a multi-million pound business be run so so poorly?

Iwobi too. lol

 

[sharkey1001]

Iwobi too. lol

How could i forget!!!! Runs like a drug mule!!!

 

[Barnfred 55]

Moshiri and his cabal of super agent friends is the biggest problem

That's certainly one of them Andy. He was brought in to run the footballing side of the club and I just don't think he's been given the environment to do that properly.

 

[Rothanaa]

I’m trying to be look at things as positively as possible and it’s not easy but really trying to be a glass half full type of guy, I’ll say… as things stand right now, with no more incomings or outgoings there is an argument we are stronger than last season. We’ve lost Bernard but he struggled with this league and we replaced him with two functional, quicker, stronger wingers who may not be top level but they offer far more balance to the squad and hopefully get us up the pitch quicker and create chances which we’ll need as we’ll be without our current number 10 (not that he did much)…. but we still have James who can play there as well as Iwobi (I know!! like I said, being positive really isn’t easy) and with JPG back from injury it could free up Doucoure to get forward more like he did at Watford where he was a real goal threat.

We’ve lost Josh King but we’ve Got Moise Kean back so I don’t think we’re weaker there. The real area of concern is RB, Coleman can’t play an entire season anymore and Kenny isn’t good enough but other than that we are no weaker than last year and we have a manager who will actually coach these players rather than just say ‘Play’. Whether we’ve improved enough to climb the table or keep up with the teams around us spending big I have no idea but we certainly aren’t relegation fodder. If the club can find a way to spend and get that RB we desperately need and the players respond to Benitez then I think we could be in and around Europe again.
I'll be negative again tomorrow

I‘m with you and trying look this positively as possible. For large chunks of last season we lost Digne, Doucoure and Allan to long term injuries. JPG and Kean returning and the recruitment of Gray and Townstead makes our bench stronger. We beat most of the top 6 last season but fell apart to the lesser teams. New RB and RW would most ideal and I hope the rumours of Nunes are true. If we can stay injury free, sell our deadweight and recruit correctly there’s every chance we are in Europe.

 

[Lord Buckethead]

I imagine that if we sold someone for 100m we would be fairly active too.

Newcastle and Palace would be positively ravaged.

 

[msb]

Koeman bought Klassan
Walsh bought Vlasic
Kenwright bought Rooney
Moshiri bought Sigurdsson

And Barkley was better than them all... was agreed to be sold for £35m. His agent told him to reject terms because Chelsea would throw him £5m in additional signing on fees and buy him for £15m in January as he was injured.

We are a complete joke in the transfer market.

• Bolasie - £28m, loaned out a few times and then released
• Tosun - £28m, loaned out a few times and will be released
• Walcott - £20m, loaned out and then released
• Schneiderlin - £24m, rotted in reserves and then sold for £2m
• Bernard - Roma wanted him last summer for £15m. Some Chinese club wanted him for £9m in Jan....Rotted in reserves and then released
• Klassan - £24m, played as one of 5 number 10's in the side, sold for £12m after 6 months
• WIlliams - £12m, one of the worst players I have ever seen. Released.
• Cuco Martina - £35k a week for 3 years. Worst signing in our history, and he was a free! 28 and been available for 2 years and has probably had 0 offers. He cannot play football.
• Sigurdsson. £45m. Brought in to score free kicks - scored 0 in 3 years. brought in to provide set-piece assists... less than 3 in 3 years. Up until May, he was up their with Cuco the clown and Niasse for our worst ever signing.
• Moise Kean. Only club in world football to have PSG want one of our players and we can't get them to pay ANYTHING. £60m for an average right-back, and they offer us a loan fee and % of his salary. We will no doubt end up loaning him again.

We need to shift Kenny, Delph, Gomes, Sigurdsson & Tosun. I doubt we could negotiate £5m for the lot.

How can a multi-million pound business be run so so poorly?

You suggest, these are all rubbish. Then who is going to pay multi-million pound deals for what we consider to be rubbish. On the list, the ONLY one that would have commanded a fee is Bernard, allegedly. According to ITK and Twitter that is.

Signing them is one thing, getting rid another, you have to segregate the two. I don't know of one Everton fan that thought signing Sigurdsson was a bad move (wrong money, that's another story).

But from yours (and many others) deep experience of selling real players in real life situations with over-inflated contracts, just how would you get these people to go away?

Kean, well if we put our foot down and demand a fee that they won't pay, how exactly is that our fault?

I don't agree with anyone thinking Barkley was anything other than a waste of space.

 

[Efcjake]

Direction?

Well, this was the Everton team that lost 5-1 to Arsenal in February 2018;

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The fact that team equalled the best league finish of any team since Brands has been here is a damning indictment of his work.

 

[Barnfred 55]

What the bloody hell does he do then?

I'm sure he does a lot of things mate. But when he came I envisaged a situation whereby he controlled the football side of things down to the style of play throughout the club at all levels and bringing in managers that would implement it, and it just hasn't happened. Each academy and under 23 coach seem to play their own way and the managers seem to choose most of the players and tell Brands to go out and get them.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

The fact that team equalled the best league finish of any team since Brands has been here is a damning indictment of his work.

Yeah, why I said he hasn't improved us competitively and it's coming up to crunch time.

Still, I'd much rather be a director of football, manager or owner coming in with this squad now, than the one Brands come into in 2018.

 

[Efcjake]

Yeah, why I said he hasn't improved us competitively and it's coming up to crunch time.

Still, I'd much rather be a director of football, manager or owner coming in with this squad now, than the one Brands come into in 2018.

I don't know about that personally when you look at the situation we are in today.

At least in 2018 we hadn't ramped up the wage bill to a level that we have now which is preventing us from reinvesting into the team. There was still the ability to make changes but now we have hamstrung ourselves big time.

I see the same problems with those players from 2018 as I do with the squad we have now. Too many overpaid players we paid too much for and can't sell. They're slightly less useless than the guff we had before but not by much.