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gwladysnight said:
Cool so you don't care that we are borrowing £100m+ at 7% instead of 2% because the banks won't touch us.
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The fact of the matter is, none of us, absolutely no one, has ANY IDEA what is going on behind the scenes. We hear, or are fed little titbits of information. The rest is assumption with various attempts at applied logic.

We went the best part 30 years with no meaningful investment and the appearance that that we had no plan or financial weight behind us. For the majority of people who are not working an angle, that is not the general consensus now.

You can argue till you're blue in the face about financial theory. You have no idea what Moshiri and Everton are doing behind closed doors. And every time you believe that you have figured it out, they do something to contradict that.

Stop guessing and stop assuming.
 
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Is Timmy Mallet our secret investor and not Usmanov?

God bless.
 
gwladysnight said:
Nope catcher is someone who posts that 2+2=5. Anyone who points out that the answer is actually 4 MUST be a Liverpool fan. For the sheep on here then to point out that the answer is 4 would be to admit that they have been hoodwinked by a semi eloquent con man.

I don't think I have ever seen a single poster who posts such factually inaccurate nonsense. He truly is the Donald Trump of GOT. I am sure that if Catcher stated that the Premier League was stolen from us and that we should be Champions then there would be hordes of people who would go along with it because it would make them feel better.

Our Club is taking loans out all over the place, is looking for a private investment of £100m and needs to fund a Stadium that is likely to cost well North of £500m+. Yet instead of asking questions about the amount of debt we are taking on, posters would rather have the safety blanket of us being owned by Usmanov and a fairy tale story that everything will come good in the end.

Wake up and smell the coffee Everton FC the club we love is probably in the most dangerous situation it has been in its history.
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gwladysnight said:
You are just digging yourself a deeper hole, Catcher.

Amazon's WACC is 8.01%. Here is how you work it out.

Amazon.com's Weighted Average Cost Of Capital (WACC) for Today is calculated as:


WACC=E / (E + D)*Cost of Equity+D / (E + D)*Cost of Debt*(1 - Tax Rate)
=0.957*8.28%+0.043*2.2318%*(1 - 14.415%)
=8.01%


You can quite clearly see that WACC and cost of debt are two completely different things.

Here is a calculation of the interest rate that Amazon is borrowing at.

Amazon.com's interest expense (positive number) was $1647 Mil. Its total Book Value of Debt (D) is $73797 Mil.
Cost of Debt = 1647 / 73797 = 2.2318%.

So Amazon borrow money at just over 2% and not 8%. I look forward to your response.
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an actual spreadsheet on GOT
 
gwladysnight said:
You are just digging yourself a deeper hole, Catcher.

Amazon's WACC is 8.01%. Here is how you work it out.

Amazon.com's Weighted Average Cost Of Capital (WACC) for Today is calculated as:


WACC=E / (E + D)*Cost of Equity+D / (E + D)*Cost of Debt*(1 - Tax Rate)
=0.957*8.28%+0.043*2.2318%*(1 - 14.415%)
=8.01%


You can quite clearly see that WACC and cost of debt are two completely different things.

Here is a calculation of the interest rate that Amazon is borrowing at.

Amazon.com's interest expense (positive number) was $1647 Mil. Its total Book Value of Debt (D) is $73797 Mil.
Cost of Debt = 1647 / 73797 = 2.2318%.

So Amazon borrow money at just over 2% and not 8%. I look forward to your response.
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Well done on pointing out Amazon have a WACC of 8%. I pointed this out to you about 5 pages back.

It's funny how I supposedly dont know what WACC is, but currently told you what Amazons was isnt it?
 

gwladysnight said:
Catcher is the one who thinks WACC and interest rates are the same thing not me.
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I dont. Have another read.

I think that the rate you can borrow capital at, has importantly similarities to the rate you can access capital at. And that businesses and business owners are not overly concerned if either rate is 7-8%.

In your head you seem to make this the same thing. Mainly because you seem unable to comprehend what is being explained to you.
 
gwladysnight said:
Nope catcher is someone who posts that 2+2=5. Anyone who points out that the answer is actually 4 MUST be a Liverpool fan. For the sheep on here then to point out that the answer is 4 would be to admit that they have been hoodwinked by a semi eloquent con man.

I don't think I have ever seen a single poster who posts such factually inaccurate nonsense. He truly is the Donald Trump of GOT. I am sure that if Catcher stated that the Premier League was stolen from us and that we should be Champions then there would be hordes of people who would go along with it because it would make them feel better.

Our Club is taking loans out all over the place, is looking for a private investment of £100m and needs to fund a Stadium that is likely to cost well North of £500m+. Yet instead of asking questions about the amount of debt we are taking on, posters would rather have the safety blanket of us being owned by Usmanov and a fairy tale story that everything will come good in the end.

Wake up and smell the coffee Everton FC the club we love is probably in the most dangerous situation it has been in its history.
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I think I've broken him.

This is an epic meltdown. Proper feet stamping stuff as it dawns on him that hes been made to look really foolish.
 

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