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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3
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Thomasc
Formerly known as By God I'm Blue
This is Cult behaviour at its finestFrom RAWK! lollollollol
I’m old but there is no experience to fall back on with regards to a season behind closed doors or 5 ‘home’ defeats on the bounce or fill in blanks for the madness of this season.
This isn’t football as anybody knows it, or wants it to be, it’s all about money and business and entertainment and marketing and something to fill in time, the opiate of the masses indeed, but it’s not football.
The statisticians are having a field day but its largely irrelevant because this is a one off season with one off results. Its hard to keep that in perspective but it makes the unbearable a bit more bearable if you do.
If you wanted to derail us its fair to say you’d:
1.Take away home advantage by removing the 12th man.
This is a bit more than just the roar of a crowd. This is an institution that has prided itself on making a difference, sucking the ball into the net. Its also a club that picks players that respond to that adrenaline rush or want to be part of that community, who excel in that environment and who’s tactics and intensity need that environment to be at their best. The team have just not been able to recreate the intensity that they need to achieve the impossible standards they have set over the previous two years. Who were the most passionate and intense team in world football…
2. Make the season shorter meaning the hardest working team in the league has no recovery time.
a team based on heavy metal football on running harder and longer than other teams, on forcing the opposition to make mistakes, to use that roar or the crowd to fuel the adrenaline, unsettle teams, make them nervous, its just not possible in the current sterile environment in which football is being played. This is not the fault of the players you cannot recreate that intensity having lived through it, it’s not Sunday league with a crowd of a couple of hundred being the big day or giving your all every time you go out on the pitch, it is just not the same. It’s not even the same watching the bloody thing let alone playing in it.
3. Provide no pre-season to protect against injury and fatigue.
Take a team that has run itself into the ground for two years and tell them they have to work even harder.
Run the few players that remain fit into the ground and into a deep pit of despair as results grind away on confidence creating the ever decreasing spiral of quick sand…
4. Injure VVD. Take out the best defender in the league, not only disrupting the Liverpool defence but giving confidence to every other team in the league.
5. Spot the weak link in the team being a shortage of centre backs and then Injure every centre half in the club and anybody capable of stepping in.
6. If there are any signs of recovery or fighting spirit take out the captain and the heart beat of the team.
7. Ensure that injuries occur regularly, so the same players, play week in and week out and get mentally fatigued and unable to perform at their best.
8. Give the biggest advantage to the highest spending clubs with the largest squads and allow them to grow through the season further demoralising any opposition. I really don’t think it’s a coincidence that as Liverpool derailed, City’s season took off, I think the burden of being second best was lifted from them and they started believing in themselves, and their squad strength came through. The lack of crowds has also allowed the players in their squad who’s mentality was questionable last season to gain in confidence and perform like it’s a reserve game. The same is true for United, a bang average team that would have been crucified by their own support but without that expectation can get by.
9. Restrict any ability to rectify squad shortages by ensuring a world wide pandemic means nobody really wants to go anywhere in January.
10. take 2 years to figure out the best way to nullify Liverpool and then get every team in the league to follow that model whilst crippling the key element of the Liverpool tactic of a high defensive line and provide no chance for a break in order to train the team in a different approach during the season.
I don’t really find it difficult to understand why Liverpool’s season has imploded, I find it a lot harder to understand how Liverpool were top at Christmas.
Klopp looks to be a little lost and hurting at the moment and for many understandable reasons. I think his key mistake is trying to play real football in a season which is fake. It’s the only thing I think Guardiola has done well this season, adapting the City style and using players to suit the unreality of the current season. He has all of the advantages, money, squad size, media and he has as usual used those advantages. I still wouldn’t swap him for Klopp, he’s basically a flat track bully. Klopp turned also rans into champions both here and in Germany. He is the normal one but we are in unusual times, normal isn’t really suited to the nonsense being called football this season. It would be very apt if the richest club in the world buy the quadruple in a season that is all about football as a business and nothing to do with the football I grew up loving.
It's only the Premier League that's meaningless. The Champions League is still very, very meaningful.
Cool_Blue
Player Valuation: £35m
Very harsh on Donald that lol
BlueStevie35
Player Valuation: £70m
Herr Funboy actually said that before the Derby, making it all that funnier
I don’t actually mind Peanut Head, he seems very honest in his views, Hendo Kid on the other hand is your typical faux hard man scally giving it large online, but would 100% crap one if he tried it in public
helpimonfire
Player Valuation: £35m
Oh how it is hurting them and long may it continue
There's a word for it...
Dortmund
rochdaleblue
Player Valuation: £50m
Of course none of these excuses apply to any other clubs do they?From RAWK! lollollollol
I’m old but there is no experience to fall back on with regards to a season behind closed doors or 5 ‘home’ defeats on the bounce or fill in blanks for the madness of this season.
This isn’t football as anybody knows it, or wants it to be, it’s all about money and business and entertainment and marketing and something to fill in time, the opiate of the masses indeed, but it’s not football.
The statisticians are having a field day but its largely irrelevant because this is a one off season with one off results. Its hard to keep that in perspective but it makes the unbearable a bit more bearable if you do.
If you wanted to derail us its fair to say you’d:
1.Take away home advantage by removing the 12th man.
This is a bit more than just the roar of a crowd. This is an institution that has prided itself on making a difference, sucking the ball into the net. Its also a club that picks players that respond to that adrenaline rush or want to be part of that community, who excel in that environment and who’s tactics and intensity need that environment to be at their best. The team have just not been able to recreate the intensity that they need to achieve the impossible standards they have set over the previous two years. Who were the most passionate and intense team in world football…
2. Make the season shorter meaning the hardest working team in the league has no recovery time.
a team based on heavy metal football on running harder and longer than other teams, on forcing the opposition to make mistakes, to use that roar or the crowd to fuel the adrenaline, unsettle teams, make them nervous, its just not possible in the current sterile environment in which football is being played. This is not the fault of the players you cannot recreate that intensity having lived through it, it’s not Sunday league with a crowd of a couple of hundred being the big day or giving your all every time you go out on the pitch, it is just not the same. It’s not even the same watching the bloody thing let alone playing in it.
3. Provide no pre-season to protect against injury and fatigue.
Take a team that has run itself into the ground for two years and tell them they have to work even harder.
Run the few players that remain fit into the ground and into a deep pit of despair as results grind away on confidence creating the ever decreasing spiral of quick sand…
4. Injure VVD. Take out the best defender in the league, not only disrupting the Liverpool defence but giving confidence to every other team in the league.
5. Spot the weak link in the team being a shortage of centre backs and then Injure every centre half in the club and anybody capable of stepping in.
6. If there are any signs of recovery or fighting spirit take out the captain and the heart beat of the team.
7. Ensure that injuries occur regularly, so the same players, play week in and week out and get mentally fatigued and unable to perform at their best.
8. Give the biggest advantage to the highest spending clubs with the largest squads and allow them to grow through the season further demoralising any opposition. I really don’t think it’s a coincidence that as Liverpool derailed, City’s season took off, I think the burden of being second best was lifted from them and they started believing in themselves, and their squad strength came through. The lack of crowds has also allowed the players in their squad who’s mentality was questionable last season to gain in confidence and perform like it’s a reserve game. The same is true for United, a bang average team that would have been crucified by their own support but without that expectation can get by.
9. Restrict any ability to rectify squad shortages by ensuring a world wide pandemic means nobody really wants to go anywhere in January.
10. take 2 years to figure out the best way to nullify Liverpool and then get every team in the league to follow that model whilst crippling the key element of the Liverpool tactic of a high defensive line and provide no chance for a break in order to train the team in a different approach during the season.
I don’t really find it difficult to understand why Liverpool’s season has imploded, I find it a lot harder to understand how Liverpool were top at Christmas.
Klopp looks to be a little lost and hurting at the moment and for many understandable reasons. I think his key mistake is trying to play real football in a season which is fake. It’s the only thing I think Guardiola has done well this season, adapting the City style and using players to suit the unreality of the current season. He has all of the advantages, money, squad size, media and he has as usual used those advantages. I still wouldn’t swap him for Klopp, he’s basically a flat track bully. Klopp turned also rans into champions both here and in Germany. He is the normal one but we are in unusual times, normal isn’t really suited to the nonsense being called football this season. It would be very apt if the richest club in the world buy the quadruple in a season that is all about football as a business and nothing to do with the football I grew up loving.
chrismpw
Player Valuation: £70m
Oh I see .... so all their injuries were meticulously planned by the league scriptwriters. These are the same fans who laughed at claims of scriptwriting last season when they were being handed everything to freshen up the league product with new winners?From RAWK! lollollollol
I’m old but there is no experience to fall back on with regards to a season behind closed doors or 5 ‘home’ defeats on the bounce or fill in blanks for the madness of this season.
This isn’t football as anybody knows it, or wants it to be, it’s all about money and business and entertainment and marketing and something to fill in time, the opiate of the masses indeed, but it’s not football.
The statisticians are having a field day but its largely irrelevant because this is a one off season with one off results. Its hard to keep that in perspective but it makes the unbearable a bit more bearable if you do.
If you wanted to derail us its fair to say you’d:
1.Take away home advantage by removing the 12th man.
This is a bit more than just the roar of a crowd. This is an institution that has prided itself on making a difference, sucking the ball into the net. Its also a club that picks players that respond to that adrenaline rush or want to be part of that community, who excel in that environment and who’s tactics and intensity need that environment to be at their best. The team have just not been able to recreate the intensity that they need to achieve the impossible standards they have set over the previous two years. Who were the most passionate and intense team in world football…
2. Make the season shorter meaning the hardest working team in the league has no recovery time.
a team based on heavy metal football on running harder and longer than other teams, on forcing the opposition to make mistakes, to use that roar or the crowd to fuel the adrenaline, unsettle teams, make them nervous, its just not possible in the current sterile environment in which football is being played. This is not the fault of the players you cannot recreate that intensity having lived through it, it’s not Sunday league with a crowd of a couple of hundred being the big day or giving your all every time you go out on the pitch, it is just not the same. It’s not even the same watching the bloody thing let alone playing in it.
3. Provide no pre-season to protect against injury and fatigue.
Take a team that has run itself into the ground for two years and tell them they have to work even harder.
Run the few players that remain fit into the ground and into a deep pit of despair as results grind away on confidence creating the ever decreasing spiral of quick sand…
4. Injure VVD. Take out the best defender in the league, not only disrupting the Liverpool defence but giving confidence to every other team in the league.
5. Spot the weak link in the team being a shortage of centre backs and then Injure every centre half in the club and anybody capable of stepping in.
6. If there are any signs of recovery or fighting spirit take out the captain and the heart beat of the team.
7. Ensure that injuries occur regularly, so the same players, play week in and week out and get mentally fatigued and unable to perform at their best.
8. Give the biggest advantage to the highest spending clubs with the largest squads and allow them to grow through the season further demoralising any opposition. I really don’t think it’s a coincidence that as Liverpool derailed, City’s season took off, I think the burden of being second best was lifted from them and they started believing in themselves, and their squad strength came through. The lack of crowds has also allowed the players in their squad who’s mentality was questionable last season to gain in confidence and perform like it’s a reserve game. The same is true for United, a bang average team that would have been crucified by their own support but without that expectation can get by.
9. Restrict any ability to rectify squad shortages by ensuring a world wide pandemic means nobody really wants to go anywhere in January.
10. take 2 years to figure out the best way to nullify Liverpool and then get every team in the league to follow that model whilst crippling the key element of the Liverpool tactic of a high defensive line and provide no chance for a break in order to train the team in a different approach during the season.
I don’t really find it difficult to understand why Liverpool’s season has imploded, I find it a lot harder to understand how Liverpool were top at Christmas.
Klopp looks to be a little lost and hurting at the moment and for many understandable reasons. I think his key mistake is trying to play real football in a season which is fake. It’s the only thing I think Guardiola has done well this season, adapting the City style and using players to suit the unreality of the current season. He has all of the advantages, money, squad size, media and he has as usual used those advantages. I still wouldn’t swap him for Klopp, he’s basically a flat track bully. Klopp turned also rans into champions both here and in Germany. He is the normal one but we are in unusual times, normal isn’t really suited to the nonsense being called football this season. It would be very apt if the richest club in the world buy the quadruple in a season that is all about football as a business and nothing to do with the football I grew up loving.
JLW
Player Valuation: £70m
Nope. This is why they are the most hated club/fans in the land, i would like nothing more than to see these plummet into oblivion.
Not so sure if they will be able to...deffo not at that price.
They'll be doing well to get half of that
Jim Hopper
Player Valuation: £40m
From RAWK! lollollollol
I’m old but there is no experience to fall back on with regards to a season behind closed doors or 5 ‘home’ defeats on the bounce or fill in blanks for the madness of this season.
This isn’t football as anybody knows it, or wants it to be, it’s all about money and business and entertainment and marketing and something to fill in time, the opiate of the masses indeed, but it’s not football.
The statisticians are having a field day but its largely irrelevant because this is a one off season with one off results. Its hard to keep that in perspective but it makes the unbearable a bit more bearable if you do.
If you wanted to derail us its fair to say you’d:
1.Take away home advantage by removing the 12th man.
This is a bit more than just the roar of a crowd. This is an institution that has prided itself on making a difference, sucking the ball into the net. Its also a club that picks players that respond to that adrenaline rush or want to be part of that community, who excel in that environment and who’s tactics and intensity need that environment to be at their best. The team have just not been able to recreate the intensity that they need to achieve the impossible standards they have set over the previous two years. Who were the most passionate and intense team in world football…
2. Make the season shorter meaning the hardest working team in the league has no recovery time.
a team based on heavy metal football on running harder and longer than other teams, on forcing the opposition to make mistakes, to use that roar or the crowd to fuel the adrenaline, unsettle teams, make them nervous, its just not possible in the current sterile environment in which football is being played. This is not the fault of the players you cannot recreate that intensity having lived through it, it’s not Sunday league with a crowd of a couple of hundred being the big day or giving your all every time you go out on the pitch, it is just not the same. It’s not even the same watching the bloody thing let alone playing in it.
3. Provide no pre-season to protect against injury and fatigue.
Take a team that has run itself into the ground for two years and tell them they have to work even harder.
Run the few players that remain fit into the ground and into a deep pit of despair as results grind away on confidence creating the ever decreasing spiral of quick sand…
4. Injure VVD. Take out the best defender in the league, not only disrupting the Liverpool defence but giving confidence to every other team in the league.
5. Spot the weak link in the team being a shortage of centre backs and then Injure every centre half in the club and anybody capable of stepping in.
6. If there are any signs of recovery or fighting spirit take out the captain and the heart beat of the team.
7. Ensure that injuries occur regularly, so the same players, play week in and week out and get mentally fatigued and unable to perform at their best.
8. Give the biggest advantage to the highest spending clubs with the largest squads and allow them to grow through the season further demoralising any opposition. I really don’t think it’s a coincidence that as Liverpool derailed, City’s season took off, I think the burden of being second best was lifted from them and they started believing in themselves, and their squad strength came through. The lack of crowds has also allowed the players in their squad who’s mentality was questionable last season to gain in confidence and perform like it’s a reserve game. The same is true for United, a bang average team that would have been crucified by their own support but without that expectation can get by.
9. Restrict any ability to rectify squad shortages by ensuring a world wide pandemic means nobody really wants to go anywhere in January.
10. take 2 years to figure out the best way to nullify Liverpool and then get every team in the league to follow that model whilst crippling the key element of the Liverpool tactic of a high defensive line and provide no chance for a break in order to train the team in a different approach during the season.
I don’t really find it difficult to understand why Liverpool’s season has imploded, I find it a lot harder to understand how Liverpool were top at Christmas.
Klopp looks to be a little lost and hurting at the moment and for many understandable reasons. I think his key mistake is trying to play real football in a season which is fake. It’s the only thing I think Guardiola has done well this season, adapting the City style and using players to suit the unreality of the current season. He has all of the advantages, money, squad size, media and he has as usual used those advantages. I still wouldn’t swap him for Klopp, he’s basically a flat track bully. Klopp turned also rans into champions both here and in Germany. He is the normal one but we are in unusual times, normal isn’t really suited to the nonsense being called football this season. It would be very apt if the richest club in the world buy the quadruple in a season that is all about football as a business and nothing to do with the football I grew up loving.
How pathetic, to put in simple terms and quote one of their own...
Imagine him coming out with all the excuses Klopp comes out with and all of their cult members singing to his hymn book?
Nymzee
Player Valuation: £150m
From RAWK! lollollollol
This isn’t football as anybody knows it, or wants it to be, it’s all about money and business and entertainment and marketing and something to fill in time, the opiate of the masses indeed, but it’s not football.
I stopped reading after this laughing at the irony of them winning the same "isn't football" league and popping fireworks at the Liver Building.
From RAWK! lollollollol
I’m old but there is no experience to fall back on with regards to a season behind closed doors or 5 ‘home’ defeats on the bounce or fill in blanks for the madness of this season.
This isn’t football as anybody knows it, or wants it to be, it’s all about money and business and entertainment and marketing and something to fill in time, the opiate of the masses indeed, but it’s not football.
The statisticians are having a field day but its largely irrelevant because this is a one off season with one off results. Its hard to keep that in perspective but it makes the unbearable a bit more bearable if you do.
If you wanted to derail us its fair to say you’d:
1.Take away home advantage by removing the 12th man.
This is a bit more than just the roar of a crowd. This is an institution that has prided itself on making a difference, sucking the ball into the net. Its also a club that picks players that respond to that adrenaline rush or want to be part of that community, who excel in that environment and who’s tactics and intensity need that environment to be at their best. The team have just not been able to recreate the intensity that they need to achieve the impossible standards they have set over the previous two years. Who were the most passionate and intense team in world football…
2. Make the season shorter meaning the hardest working team in the league has no recovery time.
a team based on heavy metal football on running harder and longer than other teams, on forcing the opposition to make mistakes, to use that roar or the crowd to fuel the adrenaline, unsettle teams, make them nervous, its just not possible in the current sterile environment in which football is being played. This is not the fault of the players you cannot recreate that intensity having lived through it, it’s not Sunday league with a crowd of a couple of hundred being the big day or giving your all every time you go out on the pitch, it is just not the same. It’s not even the same watching the bloody thing let alone playing in it.
3. Provide no pre-season to protect against injury and fatigue.
Take a team that has run itself into the ground for two years and tell them they have to work even harder.
Run the few players that remain fit into the ground and into a deep pit of despair as results grind away on confidence creating the ever decreasing spiral of quick sand…
4. Injure VVD. Take out the best defender in the league, not only disrupting the Liverpool defence but giving confidence to every other team in the league.
5. Spot the weak link in the team being a shortage of centre backs and then Injure every centre half in the club and anybody capable of stepping in.
6. If there are any signs of recovery or fighting spirit take out the captain and the heart beat of the team.
7. Ensure that injuries occur regularly, so the same players, play week in and week out and get mentally fatigued and unable to perform at their best.
8. Give the biggest advantage to the highest spending clubs with the largest squads and allow them to grow through the season further demoralising any opposition. I really don’t think it’s a coincidence that as Liverpool derailed, City’s season took off, I think the burden of being second best was lifted from them and they started believing in themselves, and their squad strength came through. The lack of crowds has also allowed the players in their squad who’s mentality was questionable last season to gain in confidence and perform like it’s a reserve game. The same is true for United, a bang average team that would have been crucified by their own support but without that expectation can get by.
9. Restrict any ability to rectify squad shortages by ensuring a world wide pandemic means nobody really wants to go anywhere in January.
10. take 2 years to figure out the best way to nullify Liverpool and then get every team in the league to follow that model whilst crippling the key element of the Liverpool tactic of a high defensive line and provide no chance for a break in order to train the team in a different approach during the season.
I don’t really find it difficult to understand why Liverpool’s season has imploded, I find it a lot harder to understand how Liverpool were top at Christmas.
Klopp looks to be a little lost and hurting at the moment and for many understandable reasons. I think his key mistake is trying to play real football in a season which is fake. It’s the only thing I think Guardiola has done well this season, adapting the City style and using players to suit the unreality of the current season. He has all of the advantages, money, squad size, media and he has as usual used those advantages. I still wouldn’t swap him for Klopp, he’s basically a flat track bully. Klopp turned also rans into champions both here and in Germany. He is the normal one but we are in unusual times, normal isn’t really suited to the nonsense being called football this season. It would be very apt if the richest club in the world buy the quadruple in a season that is all about football as a business and nothing to do with the football I grew up loving.
Love number 5 - injure every centre half
VVD - 50/50 ball with Pickford
Gomez - who injured him? Training injury
Matip- who injured him? Leg fell off at half time
Phillips- who injured him? No one and he's available
Williams - who injured him? No one and he's available
Kabak - who injured him? No one and he's available
Davies - who injured him? Training ground injury
Fabinho - who injured him? Centre mid and no reason for him to play cb
Henderson - who injured him? Himself but no reason for him to play cb
So out of 9 players that's one injury caused by a tackle.
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