Computer games.

[Daz1878]

Have yet to boot up Cyberpunk - can't face the 43GB patch at the moment, to be honest (the joys of ADSL broadband...). Enjoying the love for FF7 in this thread, though. Hands down still the best game I've ever played, and I sunk so many hours into it on the PS1 - back in the day when everything ran off disc, no patches or DLC or anything, and devs/publishers had one shot at getting it right.

That's funny.. I loved The Division when it first came out, played it religiously. In the end I got bogged down by a less-than-stellar end game experience and the Dark Zone was a mess, so I shelved it and went back to Destiny.

Months later I tried to go back as I'd heard that a whole number of issues where corrected and QoL improvements made.. but I just couldn't get back into it. Same with The Division 2 - bought it on launch day and I got bored within about 10-12 hours. I guess those first couple of months of the first game were a novelty or something..

Funny, I came very close to abandoning The Division 2 after about 12 hours - I hated the mechanics, the cluttered inventory system, etc. But after giving it a (planned) final whirl, it suddenly just clicked and I ended up completing everything in the base game. Bought the Warlords of New York DLC but have to try it (I've probably forgotten all the controls by now).

 

[DrEFC]

Regarding Cyberpunk 2077 I preordered for PS4 and it just arrived today. Experiencing a dilemma on whether to open it up and endure any bugs or technical issues I encounter until they resolve the issue or return it for a different game. Has anyone played it for ps4? could use some advice.

Tbf, on the PS4 Pro, bar the occasional glitches and crashes (3x on each of the first three days I played it) it's been ok.

 

[rylojr]

Thought I'd throw my oar in...


Best:
1. Alien Isolation - Better than most of the films, and an example of how to use a movie license intelligently and with a real love of the source material. A breath of fresh air after decades of growing up with sha-bite movie licensed games from the likes of Ocean software. Brilliantly tense and a Audio/Visual design ethic that is just outstanding.

2. FFVII - Goes without saying, really. Great characters and story and a brilliantly crafted battle/magic development system. This was just great fun and had so much extra quests/challenges that made it infinitely re-playable. Plus the music was sublime - I still have the "Gold Saucer" theme running in my head 25 years later. Made up with the remake as well, really impressed with how they honoured it.

3. Metal Gear Solid - Kojima's greatest creation, the original was innovative, cinematic and full of fantastic ideas - The gas chamber room early in the game activated by tripping the infrared laser beams - you had to smoke your ciggies to reveal the beams - your health slow sapping as you puffed away - GENIUS. Still the best of the series for me, the storylines just got too convoluted and silly for me - Part 3 - Snake Eater is a close second though

4. Super Mario Kart - The SNES original is just incredible. Visually charming and with the best two-player gameplay I've ever experienced

5. Populous - The god game that offered a unique play style and utterly absorbing and addictive. Inflicting disasters and a bloodthirsty knight on the "evil" god's followers was just fantastic.

Worst

1. Street Fighter series - I'm not a big fan of beat 'em ups - these just feel too repetitive and samey for me - How many versions of the same game can Capcom turn out?

2. FIFA games - Money grabbing EA just feel like their taking the proverbial pish - I haven't bought a FIFA game since about 1998 - Give me Sensible Soccer or Pro-evolution 6 - gameplay and fun wise, these were the best for me.

3. Rise of the robots - Thankfully I wasn't duped by the blatant lies on the advertising for this POS - my mate paid 70 notes for it on the SNES - man, was he sorry. Horrible, horrible, horrible game. The programmers should be on trial for war crimes - it's that bad.

4. ET The extra-terrestrial - The game that almost killed an entire industry. I had it on the Atari 2600 - not bought but given to me by an older cousin. I haven't spoken to him in almost 40 years as a result. It's horrendous, truly, abysmal.

5. Total Recall - The c64 version was one of the most frustrating titles I've ever played. Horrible graphics and sound, impossibly difficult, tired side-scrolling format, an absolute waste of a great movie license.

 

[Death]

So you're saying the people enjoying it are idiots? Nice one mate.

The lack of interaction in the world is odd and at times jarring but that doesn't take away from the main story, characters and stunning city scape to explore. Also I'd be amazed if those things weren't at least partly addressed with updates and free "dlc".

Maybe if people spent more time enjoying it for what is is and not for what they want it to be, they'd actually have a good time...

Yeah I’m enjoying it myself for the story is good and gameplay is ok

 

[trueblue84]

Thought I'd throw my oar in...


Best:
1. Alien Isolation - Better than most of the films, and an example of how to use a movie license intelligently and with a real love of the source material. A breath of fresh air after decades of growing up with sha-bite movie licensed games from the likes of Ocean software. Brilliantly tense and a Audio/Visual design ethic that is just outstanding.

2. FFVII - Goes without saying, really. Great characters and story and a brilliantly crafted battle/magic development system. This was just great fun and had so much extra quests/challenges that made it infinitely re-playable. Plus the music was sublime - I still have the "Gold Saucer" theme running in my head 25 years later. Made up with the remake as well, really impressed with how they honoured it.

3. Metal Gear Solid - Kojima's greatest creation, the original was innovative, cinematic and full of fantastic ideas - The gas chamber room early in the game activated by tripping the infrared laser beams - you had to smoke your ciggies to reveal the beams - your health slow sapping as you puffed away - GENIUS. Still the best of the series for me, the storylines just got too convoluted and silly for me - Part 3 - Snake Eater is a close second though

4. Super Mario Kart - The SNES original is just incredible. Visually charming and with the best two-player gameplay I've ever experienced

5. Populous - The god game that offered a unique play style and utterly absorbing and addictive. Inflicting disasters and a bloodthirsty knight on the "evil" god's followers was just fantastic.

Worst

1. Street Fighter series - I'm not a big fan of beat 'em ups - these just feel too repetitive and samey for me - How many versions of the same game can Capcom turn out?

2. FIFA games - Money grabbing EA just feel like their taking the proverbial pish - I haven't bought a FIFA game since about 1998 - Give me Sensible Soccer or Pro-evolution 6 - gameplay and fun wise, these were the best for me.

3. Rise of the robots - Thankfully I wasn't duped by the blatant lies on the advertising for this POS - my mate paid 70 notes for it on the SNES - man, was he sorry. Horrible, horrible, horrible game. The programmers should be on trial for war crimes - it's that bad.

4. ET The extra-terrestrial - The game that almost killed an entire industry. I had it on the Atari 2600 - not bought but given to me by an older cousin. I haven't spoken to him in almost 40 years as a result. It's horrendous, truly, abysmal.

5. Total Recall - The c64 version was one of the most frustrating titles I've ever played. Horrible graphics and sound, impossibly difficult, tired side-scrolling format, an absolute waste of a great movie license.

Ha. I remember rise of the robots. Had it on 14 floppy disks if I remember right. Absolutely horrendous.

 

[rylojr]

Ha. I remember rise of the robots. Had it on 14 floppy disks if I remember right. Absolutely horrendous.

It was an ABOMINATION. Seriously there must have been so many pissed-off parents shelling out for that game and then their kids are whining that it's so awful....

 

[Baines' left foot]

And I just right now at part where Jackie dies. So there’s no cutscenes in this thing? The promo has a deadly cutscenes and one where Jackie dies but this is all in first person.

Jesus this starting to feel like a con job.

Stop spoiling games ffs. You’ve done this before and it’s selfish beyond belief.

 

[collymcd]

Thought I'd throw my oar in...


Best:
1. Alien Isolation - Better than most of the films, and an example of how to use a movie license intelligently and with a real love of the source material. A breath of fresh air after decades of growing up with sha-bite movie licensed games from the likes of Ocean software. Brilliantly tense and a Audio/Visual design ethic that is just outstanding.

2. FFVII - Goes without saying, really. Great characters and story and a brilliantly crafted battle/magic development system. This was just great fun and had so much extra quests/challenges that made it infinitely re-playable. Plus the music was sublime - I still have the "Gold Saucer" theme running in my head 25 years later. Made up with the remake as well, really impressed with how they honoured it.

3. Metal Gear Solid - Kojima's greatest creation, the original was innovative, cinematic and full of fantastic ideas - The gas chamber room early in the game activated by tripping the infrared laser beams - you had to smoke your ciggies to reveal the beams - your health slow sapping as you puffed away - GENIUS. Still the best of the series for me, the storylines just got too convoluted and silly for me - Part 3 - Snake Eater is a close second though

4. Super Mario Kart - The SNES original is just incredible. Visually charming and with the best two-player gameplay I've ever experienced

5. Populous - The god game that offered a unique play style and utterly absorbing and addictive. Inflicting disasters and a bloodthirsty knight on the "evil" god's followers was just fantastic.

Worst

1. Street Fighter series - I'm not a big fan of beat 'em ups - these just feel too repetitive and samey for me - How many versions of the same game can Capcom turn out?

2. FIFA games - Money grabbing EA just feel like their taking the proverbial pish - I haven't bought a FIFA game since about 1998 - Give me Sensible Soccer or Pro-evolution 6 - gameplay and fun wise, these were the best for me.

3. Rise of the robots - Thankfully I wasn't duped by the blatant lies on the advertising for this POS - my mate paid 70 notes for it on the SNES - man, was he sorry. Horrible, horrible, horrible game. The programmers should be on trial for war crimes - it's that bad.

4. ET The extra-terrestrial - The game that almost killed an entire industry. I had it on the Atari 2600 - not bought but given to me by an older cousin. I haven't spoken to him in almost 40 years as a result. It's horrendous, truly, abysmal.

5. Total Recall - The c64 version was one of the most frustrating titles I've ever played. Horrible graphics and sound, impossibly difficult, tired side-scrolling format, an absolute waste of a great movie license.

Populous! What a bloody game. Absolutely loved it. I never really got too far with it though because I was too young. Similarly with that Black & White game. Was probably a bit too advanced for me at the time.

My all time favourites are probably Age of Empires II, Rome Total War II and Gangsters: Organized Crime. Always been a fan of strategy games. To this day I still return to Rome and Gangsters every so often. Playing Age of Empires II online with my mates still remains the best gaming experience ever. The shady deals and backstabbing of each other was glorious.

As a kid though it had to be the Streets of Rage series on the Sega. Used to play with my Dad a lot. In one of the games you had an option to join the boss' side at the end. My Dad chose to take the boss' side one day for the luls. I still remember the heartbreak of having to bash his head in after we had been through so much. Hilarious.

Must give Alien Isolation a go over Christmas. From the brief gameplay trailer I watched it looks spectacularly good at building atmosphere.

 

[LostLegend]

Not played E: D in over a year, but this update looks something else.
Atmospheric planets and the long awaited 1st person mode. Being able to walk around your ships and the space port... might have to take a gander at this!

 

[Toffe3m4n]

My mate is playing it on Series X. He said "it's flawless. Haven't seen a single bug".

I watched him streaming on Twitch for about 10mins and saw multiple bugs all over the place.

The lack of general "polish" is unbelievable too. This screenshot is the last frame of a little gameplay clip he sent to our WhatsApp group, saying how great the combat is with a katana.

People will see what they want to when they're really invested in something I guess, because the combat looked pretty awful to me, and the absolute state of the graphics here:

Genuinely, I've seen PS3 games with better graphics than that.

That can't be on Series X surely?? state of those character models. It's either last-gen (Xbox One/One X) or on PC with low settings.

 

[trueblue84]

Not played E: D in over a year, but this update looks something else.
Atmospheric planets and the long awaited 1st person mode. Being able to walk around your ships and the space port... might have to take a gander at this!

No man's sky has to take some credit for driving this. Should be great when it comes out. My only gripe with elite is the controls feel a bit sluggish on console. I remember getting absolutely destroyed in combat.

 

[Sy-]

In no particular order

Best

Mega-lo-mania (Megadrive) - My first real strategy game, replayed it all again recently on an emulator!
COD World at War / MW (Wii) - FPS with a Wii-remote was SO much better than a control pad, shame about the graphics and small communities
Wolfenstein New Order / Old Blood / New Colossus - Serious value for money, great fun, but also some surprisingly good story-telling
The Division - Easily my most hours into an action game, perfect blend of single player & co-op, awesome world & atmosphere
AC2 / Brotherhood - Game-play was novel at the time, great worlds, great soundtrack, great story

Worst
RDR2 - Horrible controls made it borderline unplayable, somehow boring too

That's it for biggest disappointments, I think it's the only time I've unquestionably bought a game that should have been a no-brainer

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

That can't be on Series X surely?? state of those character models. It's either last-gen (Xbox One/One X) or on PC with low settings.

It’s on Series X, hand on heart.

the game isn’t finished.

 

[Curtis]

Best games I've played

1. Chrono trigger
2. FF six -memorable as seven was , I feel six just aged better
3. Uncharted 2
4. Witcher 3
5. Mass effect 2
Honourable mention
Tony hawk 2, knights of the old republic, resident evil 4 , horizon project dawn
, Sly cooper 2

Disappointing games
1. Mass effect andromeda
2. Mass effect 3
3. Assassin's creed
4. Resident evil 6
5.star wars battlefront 2

 

[Curtis]

Tbf, on the PS4 Pro, bar the occasional glitches and crashes (3x on each of the first three days I played it) it's been ok.

I own a ps4 slim it's two years old so I don't know what awaits me, as I heard it's less catastrophic on the pro and ps5.