Project restart discussion.

Pejic300 · June 4, 2020

daza_1973 said:
Wouldn't get too excited those cardboard cutouts will be probably intimidate them as well....

I bet Sky still put their microphones in front of the away fans cardboard cut-outs.

daza_1973 · June 4, 2020

Pejic300 said:
I bet Sky still put their microphones in front of the away fans cardboard cut-outs.

Or paint them brighter.

kenada_blue · June 4, 2020

5 subs.
No VAR.

Integrity and all that when you know...you change the rules half way through a season

DrEFC · June 4, 2020

kenada_blue said:
5 subs.
No VAR.

Integrity and all that when you know...you change the rules half way through a season

This is just bull. It's not about integrity any more. Disgusted that clubs are compliant for money.

carlos21 · June 4, 2020

DrEFC said:
This is just bull. It's not about integrity any more. Disgusted that clubs are compliant for money.

Can you please send me some rep please.

Foot Long Hot Dog · June 4, 2020

Mat70s said:
I see what you are saying but sporting integrity is, arguably, a false flag. It can be interpreted however you want to play it.

Is there sporting integrity in not promoting teams? Is there integrity in giving the likes of Norwich 38 more games in the PL? Is there integrity in letting West Ham off the hook despite it being run by morally bankrupt people intent of ripping the soul out of that club? Regardless of your answers to these questions, 'sporting integrity' cannot be easily defined and is basically subjective.

Anyway, if it comes down to PPG, I'm not sure the primary motivating factor is sporting integrity. Self-interest is at play - both in terms of the bottom 6 wanting to avoid relegation and the rest who won't care who is relegated as they know it won't be them.

How can sporting integrity be a ‘false flag’?

No club has yet earned promotion, and until they mathematically have, there’s no real argument. You can’t relegate teams based on statistical averages and not football. It’s just plain wrong.

As for self interest, the sides who aren’t threatened with relegation have nothing to gain or lose either way, barring Sheff U, who’d gain a place. So clubs can vote either way with impunity.

carlos21 · June 4, 2020

Foot Long Hot Dog said:
How can sporting integrity be a ‘false flag’?

No club has yet earned promotion, and until they mathematically have, there’s no real argument. You can’t relegate teams based on statistical averages and not football. It’s just plain wrong.

As for self interest, the sides who aren’t threatened with relegation have nothing to gain or lose either way, barring Sheff U, who’d gain a place. So clubs can vote either way with impunity.

Can you please give me some rep please.

Blues Harp · June 4, 2020

kenada_blue said:
5 subs.
No VAR.

Integrity and all that when you know...you change the rules half way through a season

Indeed...therefore its not the same season that was halted on 14/3 is it? Total mockery of the word "integrity"

NathDogg · June 4, 2020

kenada_blue said:
5 subs.
No VAR.

Integrity and all that when you know...you change the rules half way through a season

DrEFC said:
This is just bull. It's not about integrity any more. Disgusted that clubs are compliant for money.

Great, keep rocking the integrity nonsense - next is two keepers in each goal, no offsides ever (slabbers already had that one), no overhead height kicks, score a hayltrick and your in goal, underarm throws allowed, handballs anyway you like - what a crock of shoite!

mahermi1 · June 4, 2020

When Liverpool are awarded their first penno against us, will they allow us to rattle our cardboard cutouts ?

H.H. · June 4, 2020

Yep, no integrity about the league and the teams only wanting to finish the season for money but the new (I assume temporary) 5 subs rules can only be a good thing for players considering that the teams have to play a lot of games in a short space of time and some will probably also have domestic cup games/European games on top?

kenada_blue · June 4, 2020

H.H. said:
Yep, no integrity about the league and the teams only wanting to finish the season for money but the new (I assume temporary) 5 subs rules can only be a good thing for players considering that the teams have to play a lot of games in a short space of time and some will probably also have domestic cup games/European games on top?

It's fine from that angle.

But as the league as a whole...it's tainted.

H.H. · June 4, 2020

kenada_blue said:
It's fine from that angle.

But as the league as a whole...it's tainted.

Definitely but it is what it is and that won't stop people remembering it mainly for mainly that reason.

Mat70s · June 4, 2020

Foot Long Hot Dog said:
How can sporting integrity be a ‘false flag’?

A good example: West Brom have spent the last couple of years spending the parachute payments to rebuild and get back up. They don't receive these payments next year. Is it fair that they are denied the opportunity to get promoted after some years of sensible housekeeping and recruitment but Norwich have another 38 games in a league they're not good enough for?

PPG isn't a brilliant way of deciding something but I'm dubious about moral equivalency when saying one team has more of an argument than another when looking at the Norwich / West Brom argument.

That's why I believe 'sporting integrity' to be a false flag.