Project restart discussion.

[Jamiednm]

Yes. The problem is though when you're grieving you really don't need football, you need solutions to keep people safe. Football will do the opposite of that.

I'll be frank, aside from them, and the Tories, I don't think anyone wants a diversion from the glib reality of the farcical handling of this crisis. It's a sombre moment for the nation.

Just as an aside, can you keep your amateur political rants out of Everton-related articles you post on this website please? It's really cringeworthy and grating. Thanks.

 

[Jamiednm]

If you count massive contributory factors, by far the most obvious being population density, then Germany which has a relatively high density (though nothing anywhere near the UK), sticks out even more so.

Germany and South Korea have defied the trend and kept extremely low numbers despite mitigating factors against such achievements.

Comparing across countries is fraught with difficulty as it's nowhere near like with like, far too many variables not just in reporting, but known massive contributory factors such as population density which really affects the resultant expectancy hugely (of both deaths and cases generally).

The UK dwarfs the other major European countries for population density and has by far the most populous city in the international hub, London (numbers and density).

Numbers tell a story but you tend to get a hugely false one when massive mitigating factors are just plainly ignored or virtually unreported.

Tbf the scientists do say comparing across countries isn't great as not like with like, but don't have the time to list the largest mitigating factors.

This is why Germany stands out and is so impressive, not just against the UK but everyone (bar South Korea) as it has low numbers despite a relatively high population density (nowhere near the UK though)

The UK perhaps should be expected to have the largest numbers (and by some way) given the demography.

When counting by head of population, Italy, Spain and even Belgium are significantly more affected than the UK. We haven't done a stellar job like South Korea, but it hasn't been awful either. Just average.

 

[Goat]

Just as an aside, can you keep your amateur political rants out of Everton-related articles you post on this website please? It's really cringeworthy and grating. Thanks.

When counting by head of population, Italy, Spain and even Belgium are significantly more affected than the UK. We haven't done a stellar job like South Korea, but it hasn't been awful either. Just average.

This is what irony looks like.

 

[Archie Knox]

How does 50 million pounds sound?

Sounds like 1.5 Iwobis.

 

[navidson]

Sounds like 1.5 Iwobis.

Or alternatively, the potential difference between a new stadium or an old one

 

[Connor]

 

[Archie Knox]

Or alternatively, the potential difference between a new stadium or an old one

Bloody hell that's a cheap stadium!

 

[navidson]

Bloody hell that's a cheap stadium!

Don't be facetious - We as Evertonians need only cast our minds back to the Kings Dock and a (relatively) small amount of money that would have guaranteed that

 

[Archie Knox]

Don't be facetious - We as Evertonians need only cast our minds back to the Kings Dock and a (relatively) small amount of money that would have guaranteed that

I know but back then we weren't owned by a billionaire who is happy to spend hundreds of millions of on trash footballers. Unless he's dramatically changed tact and is no longer looking to put his money in, 50m should be a drop in the ocean in the grand scheme of things.

 

[navidson]

I know but back then we weren't owned by a billionaire who is happy to spend hundreds of millions of on trash footballers. Unless he's dramatically changed tact and is no longer looking to put his money in, 50m should be a drop in the ocean in the grand scheme of things.

It should be - but you have to admit we are in a financially wobbly state at the moment (Massive squad stuffed full of garbage, new stadium on the horizon)

Plus the fact that football will essentially be a different sport when we finally bin off this knobhead virus

 

[Wat Tyler]

Germany coming back makes me think the parasites who are more interested in making money at the top of the game in England will make this happen.

I really am not remotely excited about the prospect of a home derby at the Amex Stadium in front of no fans in June. It will be worse than a pre season friendly, and they really are crap as well.

 

[Tin-Tin]

If they dont void and only curtail, deciding promotions and relegations, id love to see them decide here

3 points between 8th and 2nd

• Sky Bet League One

Standings

POS.			P	Pts
1		Coventry City	34	67
2		Rotherham United	35	62
3		Oxford United	35	60
4		Portsmouth	35	60
5		Fleetwood Town	35	60
6		Peterborough United	35	59
7		Sunderland	36	59
8		Wycombe Wanderers	34	59

20		AFC Wimbledon	35	35
21		Tranmere Rovers	34	32
22		Southend United	35	19
23		Bolton Wanderers	34	14 *

 

[Chris O'Connor]

When counting by head of population, Italy, Spain and even Belgium are significantly more affected than the UK. We haven't done a stellar job like South Korea, but it hasn't been awful either. Just average.

Yes true but if you put the same amount of people into two acres it is far less dense than putting them into one acre for example.

Italy
Population: 60.36 million Eurostat
Area: 301,338 km²


UK
Population: 66.65 million Eurostat
Area: 242,495 km²

Spain
Population: 46.94 million Eurostat
Area: 505,990 km²

So while both have smaller populations, Spain very significantly so, they both have a larger area to fit them into, Spain massively so.

London again can be compared to Rome and Madrid

London
Capital of England
Population: 8.982 million Eurostat
Area: 1,572 km²

Madrid
Capital of Spain
Population: 6.642 million Eurostat
Area: 604.3 km²

Rome
Capital of Italy
Population: 2.873 million Istat
Area: 1,285 km²


As you can see London is huge in population terms and far more densley populated, being a smaller country it's far more commutable to the rest of the UK too. It's not surprising it was worst hit.

There's a marked call correlation between population density, and more so closeness of the most populous city to the rest of the country to the figures for both cases and fatalities.

It's why the countries that break that trend stand put more, South Korea and Germany on the positive side and Sweden on the negative.

The other countries more or less correspond to how you would predict. Unfortunately the UK is the most densley populated in Europe by a long way.

 

[mccole]

So the EFL are quite happy to let league 1 and 2 take the blunt of the pandemic and void those leagues but Premiership money gimme gimme gimme.

Cheers Parry you bad Kopite

 

[boris]

Yes true but if you put the same amount of people into two acres it is far less dense than putting them into one acre for example.

Italy
Population: 60.36 million Eurostat
Area: 301,338 km²


UK
Population: 66.65 million Eurostat
Area: 242,495 km²

Spain
Population: 46.94 million Eurostat
Area: 505,990 km²

So while both have smaller populations, Spain very significantly so, they both have a larger area to fit them into, Spain massively so.

London again can be compared to Rome and Madrid

London
Capital of England
Population: 8.982 million Eurostat
Area: 1,572 km²

Madrid
Capital of Spain
Population: 6.642 million Eurostat
Area: 604.3 km²

Rome
Capital of Italy
Population: 2.873 million Istat
Area: 1,285 km²


As you can see London is huge in population terms and far more densley populated, being a smaller country it's far more commutable to the rest of the UK too. It's not surprising it was worst hit.

There's a marked call correlation between population density, and more so closeness of the most populous city to the rest of the country to the figures for both cases and fatalities.

It's why the countries that break that trend stand put more, South Korea and Germany on the positive side and Sweden on the negative.

The other countries more or less correspond to how you would predict. Unfortunately the UK is the most densley populated in Europe by a long way.

I may be misunderstanding this here but isn’t Madrid far more densely populated than London per square KM looking at those figures.