american sports

TheBigIguana · February 5, 2020

Nymzee said:
Unless I read it wrong the Ravens were the Browns squad and back room staff A.K.A. a transplant.

Someone had to play the games you know? They weren't going to have a whole team of guys who hadn't played before.

Nymzee · February 5, 2020

SerenityNigh said:
No, you're right. I forgot about that. Everyone forgets about the Browns. Not quit the same as MK Dons, but more similar than I suggested previously.

Not native whatsoever then haha. New squad, stadium, owners, colours. Just location

TheBigIguana · February 5, 2020

Nymzee said:
I’m not criticising the fans?

The whole genesis of this is saying that you don't think American's can loyally support their teams which is still bogus.

wm02 · February 5, 2020

I have nothing to add other than the Indy Colts are garbage and the likes of Unitas, Mackey, and Donovan are still beloved in Baltimore and so it shall ever be

Nymzee · February 5, 2020

TheBigIguana said:
Someone had to play the games you know? They weren't going to have a whole team of guys who hadn't played before.

Yes, but that doesn’t make the team native as suggested does it...

TheBigIguana · February 5, 2020

Nymzee said:
Yes, but that doesn’t make the team native as suggested does it...

It clearly isn't. Native teams don't exist in America. The system doesn't allow it. Even teams like the Texans or Golden Knights have to cherry pick people from all over the league. It's impossible otherwise. That's hardly a reason to suggest supporting a team is questionable.

Nymzee · February 5, 2020

TheBigIguana said:
The whole genesis of this is saying that you don't think American's can loyally support their teams which is still bogus.

My original point was that I think it’s difficult to show loyalty when your team can just move to the other side of the country and be replaced by another. I don’t think that’s an incorrect statement.

Nymzee · February 5, 2020

TheBigIguana said:
It clearly isn't. Native teams don't exist in America. The system doesn't allow it. Even teams like the Texans or Golden Knights have to cherry pick people from all over the league. It's impossible otherwise. That's hardly a reason to suggest supporting a team is questionable.

Cowboys are native. Born in Dallas, still in Dallas, squad assembled over the years in Dallas.

TheBigIguana · February 5, 2020

Nymzee said:
My original point was that I think it’s difficult to show loyalty when your team can just move to the other side of the country and be replaced by another. I don’t think that’s an incorrect statement.

But it is incorrect. As I've said in previous posts, teams have huge loyal followings despite that risk. Including cities like Baltimore, Cleveland, Seattle and Houston that know first hand it could happen.

Nymzee · February 5, 2020

TheBigIguana said:
But it is incorrect. As I've said in previous posts, teams have huge loyal followings despite that risk. Including cities like Baltimore, Cleveland, Seattle and Houston that know first hand it could happen.

Well okay, in Seattle what do SuperSonics fans do now? Support the Thunder?

TheBigIguana · February 5, 2020

Nymzee said:
Well okay, in Seattle what do SuperSonics fans do now? Support the Thunder?

There's nothing they can do until another team is put in Seattle.

But the same groups of fans are all in on the Seahawks all the time.

Again I think you're aiming your criticism at the wrong group. You're trying to degrade the supporters when the problem is that a bunch of rich dudes control everything.

Nymzee · February 5, 2020

TheBigIguana said:
There's nothing they can do until another team is put in Seattle.

But the same groups of fans are all in on the Seahawks all the time.

Again I think you're aiming your criticism at the wrong group. You're trying to degrade the supporters when the problem is that a bunch of rich dudes control everything.

Again, never aimed my original post at the fans...

Nymzee said:
To be fair, supporting a team in America is a joke anyway. When you have the ability to uproot an entire sports team and move it across the country local loyalty doesn’t mean anything.

SerenityNigh · February 5, 2020

Nymzee said:
Well okay, in Seattle what do SuperSonics fans do now? Support the Thunder?

It's not a zero sum game yo. Just because it's different or complex doesn't mean all Yanks are plastics. Now maybe all Yanks are ill-tempered, gun-toting, micro-peen meatheads, but how you connect the dots from this to disloyal, front-running, ignorant pricks is beyond me.