No I agree, I just absolutely hate the argument that you'd be better off avoiding Europe. One because it's another chance at a trophy, two because I enjoy the European trips, and three because it means getting less points and finishing lower in the table, which completely defeats the object of competing in the league in the first place. Also worth pointing out that being in Europe might make us slightly more attractive to certain players. If we were chasing the same player as Leicester or Wolves but had Europe while they didn't then that could be the difference. People are getting very excited with some of their utterings based on not an awful lot of transfer business just yet.