Modern Football Fans & Stats

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Whatever happened to watching a game and coming up with an opinion based on what you saw with your own eyes?

It's been mentioned in other threads but there seems to be a huge emphasis on people using random stats to demonstrate why we should or shouldn't sign a player when for the most part the stats used are garbage.

If we could stop using pointless stats as the sole basis as to the pros and cons of a player that would be great. Surely the 4 hours you spent compiling stats and making graphs would have been better spent climbing off your stained bed sheets, having a shower and putting some effort into forming meaningful relationships.
 
Whatever happened to watching a game and coming up with an opinion based on what you saw with your own eyes?

It's been mentioned in other threads but there seems to be a huge emphasis on people using random stats to demonstrate why we should or shouldn't sign a player when for the most part the stats used are garbage.

If we could stop using pointless stats as the sole basis as to the pros and cons of a player that would be great. Surely the 4 hours you spent compiling stats and making graphs would have been better spent climbing off your stained bed sheets, having a shower and putting some effort into forming meaningful relationships.

But wharrabout that one baseball team tho?
 
Whatever happened to watching a game and coming up with an opinion based on what you saw with your own eyes?

It's been mentioned in other threads but there seems to be a huge emphasis on people using random stats to demonstrate why we should or shouldn't sign a player when for the most part the stats used are garbage.

If we could stop using pointless stats as the sole basis as to the pros and cons of a player that would be great. Surely the 4 hours you spent compiling stats and making graphs would have been better spent climbing off your stained bed sheets, having a shower and putting some effort into forming meaningful relationships.

You have a 100% win ratio at Boxing though, and that is good x
 
The only stat that matters in assessing a player is whether he can consistently average over 7 at a non-player team on Champo.
 
Whatever happened to watching a game and coming up with an opinion based on what you saw with your own eyes?

It's been mentioned in other threads but there seems to be a huge emphasis on people using random stats to demonstrate why we should or shouldn't sign a player when for the most part the stats used are garbage.

If we could stop using pointless stats as the sole basis as to the pros and cons of a player that would be great. Surely the 4 hours you spent compiling stats and making graphs would have been better spent climbing off your stained bed sheets, having a shower and putting some effort into forming meaningful relationships.

Sometimes people just don’t get the point. When you hand them an Apple and they insist it’s an orange until you bring out the chemical component, acidic level, Ph lvl, molecule, atoms with full of numbers thrown in.
 

Devils advocate- because what people see with their eyes is open to interpretation.

Stats give you a base to work from, to enable you to form a clear picture of the players capabilities.

Where stats fall down with idiots who base a players capabilities solely on that, is they do not allow for the chance of improvement and base everything solely on current stats.

Can’t believe I actually answered this seriously
 

Devils advocate- because what people see with their eyes is open to interpretation.

Stats give you a base to work from, to enable you to form a clear picture of the players capabilities.

Where stats fall down with idiots, is they do not allow for the chance of improvement and base everything solely on current stats.

Can’t believe I actually answered this seriously

Could you request a ban for yourself please mate
 
I don't know why it's become some prevalent, but it's one of the things about modern football discussion that really winds me up

People pulling out spreadsheets and pie charts to show why a player is good. You have eyes, use them. It's never been easier to find footage of players due to the internet and the amount of football on TV, and that's before you buy a ticket to go watch a game in person

STATS have their place, but the Eye Test is the best way of telling whether a player is any good. Why do you think scouts still go to matches or watch video of players they're thinking of signing? If STATS were all important, they'd sign players based off those alone

STATS tell you something about a footballer, but they don't tell you as much as actually watching them play would
 
Well... I mean the score line is a stat in essence.

Well of course, but its the only one that really means anything at the end of the day. Many football stats are either utter nonsense (based on opinion so they cant really be a stat, a "key pass" for example is not really a quantifiable thing) or open to huge scrutiny.

The result is all that matters.
 

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