Manager out. Vote

Daytripper · January 26, 2019

I like the fella but these performances are unacceptable, that was a disgrace today. Embarrassing. Would love him to be a success here but it’s not working. We look like a rabbit in the headlights when a set piece is delivered and very docile at second balls.

It’s been this way for some time and it’s not being rectified. Not defending the manager, some of our players are vastly overrated, the attitude isn’t there either. When things go wrong you look for a reaction and more often than not they are found wanting. It’s a horrible trait this club has had for years, whenever it’s time to step up and do something we don’t , we falter and another season finishes without anything majorly relevant to celebrate.

You can talk about the Moyes era, fair enough, a lot of it is better than now but I don’t look back with huge fondness. Those away performances especially at the “top four” were spineless. Games were lost before a ball was kicked.

It’s a just a mess and I’m pretty tired of it. I’ll always care, always want them to win but each season we become more and more irrelevant whilst we face skipping further down the honours list whilst others succeed.

Goat · January 26, 2019

orly said:
It is totally rank isn't it? Since Martinez's second season Everton have been absolutely bumrot. Virtually nothing enjoyable about it.

Bolasie, Unsworth, Allardyce, Sammy Lee, £45m for Iceland Anonymous, Mina, Pickford, DCL and Davies. Vomit.

Its just not a likeable club.

I dont like any of the players, I dont like the manager.

The Hateful Ev.

Bob Elstone · January 26, 2019

cantlivewithem said:
we cant keep changing our manager. He is our 4th hired manager in 6 seasons. We are never going to grow if we keep starting from scratch every 18 months

That’s ridiculous. So what you’re saying is we shouldn’t get rid of a manager who is failing because we’re starting from scratch?

I’d rather be starting from scratch than putting up with 2 wins in 11. Beaten by lower league.

Coggy · January 26, 2019

LouReedwalkonthewildside said:
If it doesn't work out under Silva mate, and he ends up getting binned, then he will be the second manager that Moshiri has chosen himself, chased to the hilt to get in, and paid good money to do it.

I agree mate. He should , hopefully , leave it to Brands now.

billyblue80 · January 26, 2019

I'm on the fence because I blame the players and the recruitment as much as the manager who obviously has flaws. Second we can't keep sacking managers because its a sticking plaster to deeper problems we need a manager to build his own squad. Three who would we appoint? Who would Brands recommend ?Who would want the job when they know they will likely only get six months?

I know this though he needs to get some results very soon or he will be gone and these cowardly players need to show a shred of fight!

billyblue80 · January 26, 2019

orly said:
It's this lazy lazy 4-2-3-1 tosh that we've been playing for the last 4 seasons that is really starting to irritate me now. Why can not one manager try and implement something different? It was gash towards the end under martinez, under koeman, under allardyce, under uberslob Unsy, why are we just persisting with it

Totally agree it hasn't worked for years.

TheBigIguana · January 26, 2019

I don't see the point in firing him midseason unless we are in trouble and the bottom of the league is so bad that we won't have that problem. Before this week I was very much in the camp of keeping him and giving him another year to really try to get the team to do what he wants. These last two months have been so bad and so lacking in any type of direction or style that I really am starting to think he may have to just go in the summer. You can give a manager all the time in the world if he isn't the right guy it will not matter.

tim cahill · January 26, 2019

Have we even finished paying off our last 2 managers yet?!

cantlivewithem · January 26, 2019

Moyes finished 7th, 17th, 4th then 11th. It was only on his 5th season that we started to achieve consistency If we had used our philosophy regarding our past few managers with Moyes we would have sacked him after his second full season when we finished 17th and God Knows where we would ended up. if we sacked Silva and hired somebody like Mancini he would probably take us to 7th in his first season and then probably we would start struggling in season 2 and then we would all demand he gets replaced. We are just repeating essentially the same cycle over and over again

billyblue80 · January 26, 2019

cantlivewithem said:
Moyes finished 7th, 17th, 4th then 11th. It was only on his 5th season that we started to achieve consistency If we had used our philosophy regarding our past few managers with Moyes we would have sacked him after his second full season when we finished 17th and God Knows where we would ended up. if we sacked Silva and hired somebody like Mancini he would probably take us to 7th in his first season and then probably we would start struggling in season 2 and then we would all demand he gets replaced. We are just repeating essentially the same cycle over and over again

Exactly then you become the new Villa. Problem is Silva does need to get results whilst building. The absolute state of our defending at set pieces is one glaring issue.

riddick · January 26, 2019

tim cahill said:
Have we even finished paying off our last 2 managers yet?!

Even better, we haven't finished paying off our last THREE managers.

I would love to think the club finally put in clauses but I doubt they have.

TheBigIguana · January 26, 2019

cantlivewithem said:
Moyes finished 7th, 17th, 4th then 11th. It was only on his 5th season that we started to achieve consistency If we had used our philosophy regarding our past few managers with Moyes we would have sacked him after his second full season when we finished 17th and God Knows where we would ended up. if we sacked Silva and hired somebody like Mancini he would probably take us to 7th in his first season and then probably we would start struggling in season 2 and then we would all demand he gets replaced. We are just repeating essentially the same cycle over and over again

I agree but if we finish 9th, 7th, 11th, and 7th again then we've wasted 4 years on a manager who can't get it done. For me you have to look for signs of progress. Are we defending better the longer he has? Are we pressing better? Are we creating more chances? Are players improving? The problem more than the results is that the answer to all those questions is no.

orly · January 26, 2019

billyblue80 said:
Totally agree it hasn't worked for years.

The thing about Silva is, he obviously wants to play a style - and it's not massively original - that involves loads of crossing (deeply ironic as we can defend them, but there we go).

The problem is he doesn't have a single player up front or in his attacking unit that attacks the ball like Cahill would do, or gamble and get in the box like Lukaku would. So he's rather insanely carrying on with it until Iceland suddenly becomes a player who actually puts himself in harms way for the team or Calvert-Failure suddenly becomes a striker