Sam Allardyce

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

For a manger who is portrayed as "reactive", or one who will tailor his team's tactical approach to exploit opponents weaknesses, I see little evidence of him being truly reactive.

There's little innovation or bold strategizing contingent on the opponent. Which is what I'd expect from a good reactive manager. It's set up to defend first and hope / leave it to the players. For that reason, I'm no likey.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

I believe in forgiveness. I believe in confession.

I believe everyone who posted in support of Brown Envelope Bisto Man will, when they look inside themselves, say "sorry". They will say "I was wrong". They will say "can I borrow some swimmys, I've left my bag at home".

And we will say, Yes.

Amen brother.

 

[COYBL25]

For a manger who is portrayed as "reactive", or one who will tailor his team's tactical approach to exploit opponents weaknesses, I see little evidence of him being truly reactive.

There's little innovation or bold strategizing. Which is what I'd expect from a good reactive manager. It's set up to defend first and hope / leave it to the players. For that reason, I'm no likey.

The mind boggles that so many people expected anything else.

When you`re only incentive to picking up your 12 million quid is to keep a team up, he was hardly likely to change from his tried and tested hoofball was he ????

 

[orly]

For a manger who is portrayed as "reactive", or one who will tailor his team's tactical approach to exploit opponents weaknesses, I see little evidence of him being truly reactive.

There's little innovation or bold strategizing contingent on the opponent. Which is what I'd expect from a good reactive manager. It's set up to defend first and hope / leave it to the players. For that reason, I'm no likey.

Crazy isn't it. Hasn't bothered to shake the place or the formation up at all. Totally hopeless.

 

[BernieWright13]

Friend?

I'd like to repent.

I wanted Sam. I was in despair. Thought we'd go down. I panicked.

I now know I was part of the problem.

That it's this very panic mentioned above that breeds the notion that "only Sam can save you".

I am sorry.

But at least you've confessed. Credit for that

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

The mind boggles that so many people expected anything else.

When you`re only incentive to picking up your 12 million quid is to keep a team up, he was hardly likely to change from his tried and tested hoofball was he ????

Very true.

I suspect it's a case of people hoping for the best despite the evidence.

 

[Stuartisitc1878]

That's why I never understood the panic and would have left Unsworth in charge myself until the right man became available.

I'm with you; I'm pretty sure that even I would have kept us up this season. I say that because I'm fairly sure having no manager and letting the players pick themselves would have seen us still stay up. The league is just that bad.

Unsworths biggest problem was the uncertainty around his position. I think the players respected him and he had a plan to get us winning but football players need stability and Unsie was nothing more than a filler whilst the club looked for the man they wanted. How can you expect players to 100% take on board a managers philosophy when they have no idea if he’ll be the following week. I know it should matter when you’re paid a fortune like these players are but it does. Unsworth was caught in the middle – if he’d been in charge for a couple of games and replaced that would have been fine, equally if they’d said the job was his till the summer from the very start then that’s fine too I think he’d have won the games Fat Sam has won and probably more but they left him in no man’s land for 6 weeks with no public backing or anything.

 

[COYBL25]

Very true.

I suspect it's a case of people hoping for the best despite the evidence.

False hope mate, people wanted to believe that he could change and like the snake oil salesman that he is, he played up to them.

 

[Tubey]

Unsworths biggest problem was the uncertainty around his position. I think the players respected him and he had a plan to get us winning but football players need stability and Unsie was nothing more than a filler whilst the club looked for the man they wanted. How can you expect players to 100% take on board a managers philosophy when they have no idea if he’ll be the following week. I know it should matter when you’re paid a fortune like these players are but it does. Unsworth was caught in the middle – if he’d been in charge for a couple of games and replaced that would have been fine, equally if they’d said the job was his till the summer from the very start then that’s fine too I think he’d have one the games Fat Sam has won and probably more but they left him in no man’s land for 6 weeks with no public backing or anything.

But the thing is that they've just replaced that with more uncertainty, as nobody - including Allardyce - seriously believed he'd be here beyond the end of this season. So the players have downed tools again now that we're effectively safe as there isn't a manager to play for.

So I'd have just gone with Unsworth on a two year contract and achieved the same thing, but at least with Unsworth the option of him staying on would have been viable if he had succeeded.

Allardyce made no sense at the time to me and makes even less sense now. I'd have sacked him yesterday personally.

 

[peteblue]

When this waste of space leaves our club, hopefully with his mate Steve, we should sticky this thread for everyone to read for years to come so that the fans and the management can be reminded never to go into stupid panic mode ever again........

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

False hope mate, people wanted to believe that he could change and like the snake oil salesman that he is, he played up to them.

For £6m per year he's going to say whatever is the perceived right thing to say. In some respects he's not unlike Martinez. Wish he'd practice passing like Martinez did now and then.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

The mind boggles that so many people expected anything else.

When you`re only incentive to picking up your 12 million quid is to keep a team up, he was hardly likely to change from his tried and tested hoofball was he ????

Never understood why some believed we would see a different Sam Allardyce just because he was at a 'big' club, and would have money to spend, after playing a certain way most of his managerial career there was no way he was going change his negative ways.

 

[maccavennie]

But the thing is that they've just replaced that with more uncertainty, as nobody - including Allardyce - seriously believed he'd be here beyond the end of this season. So the players have downed tools again now that we're effectively safe as there isn't a manager to play for.

So I'd have just gone with Unsworth on a two year contract and achieved the same thing, but at least with Unsworth the option of him staying on would have been viable if he had succeeded.

Allardyce made no sense at the time to me and makes even less sense now. I'd have sacked him yesterday personally.

Unsworth will never have a better chance of managing Everton than the chance which has passed him by imo. No big name managers to compete against, just fat head and I'm sure if he has been told when he took over as interim boss that Allardyce would be his nearest rival then he would have given himself a great chance of the job.

I'm a massive Unsworth fan but the day he went to Lyon and decided to play with no strikers and lob Gylfi up top was a sure fire sign that he didn't have a firm grip of what was going on behind the scenes. The games against Atalanta and Southampton only compounded the misery.

The West Ham Game came 3 games too late as he stumbled upon a winning formula but by this point Bisto Boy was already in the stand claiming the 3 points as his own.

 

[Stuartisitc1878]

But the thing is that they've just replaced that with more uncertainty, as nobody - including Allardyce - seriously believed he'd be here beyond the end of this season. So the players have downed tools again now that we're effectively safe as there isn't a manager to play for.

So I'd have just gone with Unsworth on a two year contract and achieved the same thing, but at least with Unsworth the option of him staying on would have been viable if he had succeeded.

Allardyce made no sense at the time to me and makes even less sense now. I'd have sacked him yesterday personally.

totally agree. That's why i'd part ways with him now and get Silva in now. He's available, a young manager we can plan a long term future around and most importantly he was the choice 3 months ago.
Sam leaves with his head held high claiming he'd done what he came in to do - prevent us from going down (not to mention walk away with a hefty payoff). The players finish the season trying to impress the new guy THEY KNOW will be here next year.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Here he is yet again trying to take credit for the West Ham game. We were 5 clear of relegation after that - which is when fatlad took charge. He's a disgrace to the club

Yet another lie from him somebody should call him out on it he spouts more fake news than Trump.