2017/18 Cenk Tosun

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Erm...Besiktas won all 3 of their group away matches. They won 1 of their home matches and drew the other 2. So no.
Ok maybe I got carried a bit by saying it’s the only reason they do well.

But they do get huge home advantages due to the feral nature of the fan base and in addition there is no way the likes of Besiktas would get anywhere near the top 4 here if Cenk Tosun is in any way representative of the standard of player they have.

I think when Bayern take them out 8-1 on aggregate we will see a truer reflection of what they actually are.
 
Ok maybe I got carried a bit by saying it’s the only reason they do well.

But they do get huge home advantages due to the feral nature of the fan base and in addition there is no way the likes of Besiktas would get anywhere near the top 4 here if Cenk Tosun is in any way representative of the standard of player they have.

I think when Bayern take them out 8-1 on aggregate we will see a truer reflection of what they actually are.

Yeh because we've seen tons of him to judge.
 

You are quite smart mate, aren't you?

The thing is Besiktas got 9 points from 3 away games at CL so your sophisticated hypotesis falls apart.
See above post. Any claims you make about Turkish football fall apart when you claim Besiktas can finish top 4 in EPL which is the best league in Europe with rubbish like Tosun leading the line.

Tosun wouldn’t be purchased in any top 6 side let alone make the squad.

How dare you claim he’s good enough for this league.
 
Ok maybe I got carried a bit by saying it’s the only reason they do well.

But they do get huge home advantages due to the feral nature of the fan base and in addition there is no way the likes of Besiktas would get anywhere near the top 4 here if Cenk Tosun is in any way representative of the standard of player they have.

I think when Bayern take them out 8-1 on aggregate we will see a truer reflection of what they actually are.

Didnt Bayern smack Arsenal sommet like that?
 
See above post. Any claims you make about Turkish football fall apart when you claim Besiktas can finish top 4 in EPL which is the best league in Europe with rubbish like Tosun leading the line.

Mate, I love PL and I don't claim Turkish League is an equivalent of PL or so but what I claim is it is better than Ligue 1 or Eredivisie etc.

To be honest, if an PL team will play against Besiktas today, the teams I would 'fear' will only be City, Spurs and Liverpool with their current form.

Anyway, just don't have this much hubris and just have an open mind. Cenk is your player now and although he is not Kane or Lukaku, he can lead you to victories. Instead of being prick, support him and as a hard-working fella he'll reward your support. For god's sake, you compare him to Niasse and DCL - it is an insult to him.
 

Mate, I love PL and I don't claim Turkish League is an equivalent of PL or so but what I claim is it is better than Ligue 1 or Eredivisie etc.

To be honest, if an PL team will play against Besiktas today, the teams I would 'fear' will only be City, Spurs and Liverpool with their current form.

Anyway, just don't have this much hubris and just have an open mind. Cenk is your player now and although he is not Kane or Lukaku, he can lead you victories. Instead of being prick, support him and as a hard-working fella he'll reward your support.
No mate I won’t because unlike you I can see he is not and never will be good enough for this league or our club.

Just because you are a Turk who naturally supports his ex players doesn’t mean we have to get sentimental about this. We’ve blown our money here on a substandard player from a substandard league.
 
No mate I won’t because unlike you I can see he is not and never will be good enough for this league or our club.

Just because you are a Turk who naturally supports his ex players doesn’t mean we have to get sentimental about this.

Okay mate, then just underrate and insult him. I believe it will be a great help for your club.
 
No mate I won’t because unlike you I can see he is not and never will be good enough for this league or our club.

Just because you are a Turk who naturally supports his ex players doesn’t mean we have to get sentimental about this. We’ve blown our money here on a substandard player from a substandard league.

He has played like 50 minutes Kev.

I can only assume you are a football genius.
 
Arsenal May have been smacked once like that by Bayern but they’ve also beaten them and played them close in recent years.

Arsenal aren't even in the Champions League but have beaten us 5-2 and 5-1 this year. Besiktas topped a group that composed of the winners of Ligue 1 in Monaco, the runners up in the Primera Liga in Porto and the runners up in the Bundesliga in Leipzig.

Are you suggesting that a team that finished rock bottom of their group in the Europa League can't possibly benefit from Besiktas's best player ?
 

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