Sam Allardyce

[Boss_Rarkley]

We have just given a manager nearly 30m to spend with the probability of more to come.

Does anybody seriously think Sam Allyrdyce will not be here next season after the management backing his judgement to that level.

He'll definitely see out his 18 month contract sadly.

 

[davek]

Dave. I remember you predicting the club was about to appoint Davie Weir as manager before RM got the job.
You were wrong then and you are wrong now. Allyrdyce will certainly see out his eighteen month contract and his progress will determine if there will be a further extension.

I think his job is twofold. The first is to clear out and balance the squad. He has already started that process with Mirallas leaving and I think we will se quite a few more in this window and the next. I think Niasse, Besic and possibly Schneiderlin may also leave. There may be others as well.

The second part of his job is to start getting results and winning points . I think we will finish seventh or eight this season and I believe that he will be manager here next seson.

There is no evidence in his whole career that he's a manager who builds teams.

He cant do it - and wont be here to do it.

There wont be any any spending by Allardyce this January that cant be recovered through sales. We are in a holding pattern between now and May with zero to play for. Getting shut of dead wood will be Allardyce's instruction but it wont be any first step to rolling out further plans.

Our image has taken a massive hit in employing Allardyce...it was a last resort from a desperate and frightened owner fearful we'd slip out of the PL. Allardyce is what he is: a short term manager who achieves a dour level of defensive competence and no more.

 

[Lowste]

There is no evidence in his whole career that he's a manager who builds teams.

He cant do it - and wont be here to do it.

There wont be any any spending by Allardyce this January that cant be recovered through sales. We are in a holding pattern between now and May with zero to play for. Getting shut of dead wood will be Allardyce's instruction but it wont be any first step to rolling out further plans.

Our image has taken a massive hit in employing Allardyce...it was a last resort from a desperate and frightened owner fearful we'd slip out of the PL. Allardyce is what he is: a short term manager who achieves a dour level of defensive competence and no more.

I can't argue with anything you have said, but I am intrigued by this whole saga and without any real evidence I think SA may want to go out of football sticking two fingers up to everybody and saying I can create a good footballing side.
In fairness my intrigue is fuelled by my pure hatred for RK

 

[andy4efc]

How?

Tosun - £27 million

Barkley - £15 million

Kev will be sold for a pittance in the summer and Walsh only went for a few quid didnt he?

If we bring in another 2-3 signings each costing say £15 million + we'll nowhere near break even - thats including if Niasse and Sandro both go.

With Tosun being in installments, and the last few million based upon Performances, I think we have his fee covered. We're only paying something like £12m upfront, 6 in the summer and 6 in the summer after.

Not a massive deal really and we can easily afford it without trouble, not to mention including £15m of from Barkley. Personally I think we'll spend a bit more this window but not over the top, just enough to get us by and perhaps mount a decent challenge at getting 7th.

 

[Llyrap]

But that's exactly what we will do. He's a well-established permanent manager on a multi-year contract.

That's what I never got - if we wanted Sam to save us from relegation - even though it was never a real threat - then we should have given him a temporary contract.

For the good of the club he's got to go as soon as possible.

Would he have accepted a temporary contract. In the end all I am asking for (without hope) that those that pay the fees don't authorise the signings of players more suited to being bouncers.

 

[Big Fat Sam]

There is no evidence in his whole career that he's a manager who builds teams.

He cant do it - and wont be here to do it.

There wont be any any spending by Allardyce this January that cant be recovered through sales. We are in a holding pattern between now and May with zero to play for. Getting shut of dead wood will be Allardyce's instruction but it wont be any first step to rolling out further plans.

Our image has taken a massive hit in employing Allardyce...it was a last resort from a desperate and frightened owner fearful we'd slip out of the PL. Allardyce is what he is: a short term manager who achieves a dour level of defensive competence and no more.

 

[davek]

I can't argue with anything you have said, but I am intrigued by this whole saga and without any real evidence I think SA may want to go out of football sticking two fingers up to everybody and saying I can create a good footballing side.
In fairness my intrigue is fuelled by my pure hatred for RK

I dont think he has any principles at all. He just vacuums up cash until it's not there any longer.

He'll get a good pension off Moshiri...him and his mates, Little Sam and Big Craig.

 

[blue61]

There is no evidence in his whole career that he's a manager who builds teams.

He cant do it - and wont be here to do it.

There wont be any any spending by Allardyce this January that cant be recovered through sales. We are in a holding pattern between now and May with zero to play for. Getting shut of dead wood will be Allardyce's instruction but it wont be any first step to rolling out further plans.

Our image has taken a massive hit in employing Allardyce...it was a last resort from a desperate and frightened owner fearful we'd slip out of the PL. Allardyce is what he is: a short term manager who achieves a dour level of defensive competence and no more.

He built a decent team at Bolton to be fair, although I'm sure you'll tell me otherwise.

 

[little elfin]

What if he gets us europa league, what would happen after that? lol

 

[chazzle_dazzle]

He built a decent team at Bolton to be fair, although I'm sure you'll tell me otherwise.

to be fair to him he did, the only problem I have with that argument is was that was over 10 years ago...

Football has moved on a lot since then, and he hasn't replicated anything of the kind since. Due to the shortism approach of both him, and the fact he hasn't moved any of the clubs forward and been removed from the post.

 

[toffee matt]

What if he gets us europa league, what would happen after that? lol

We won’t be anywhere near the European Spots with Brexit Sam at the helm

 

[Lowste]

I dont think he has any principles at all. He just vacuums up cash until it's not there any longer.

He'll get a good pension off Moshiri...him and his mates, Little Sam and Big Craig.

I can't disagree....but this intrigue is getting the better of me.

I am confident it will pass

 

[chazzle_dazzle]

There is no evidence in his whole career that he's a manager who builds teams.

He cant do it - and wont be here to do it.

There wont be any any spending by Allardyce this January that cant be recovered through sales. We are in a holding pattern between now and May with zero to play for. Getting shut of dead wood will be Allardyce's instruction but it wont be any first step to rolling out further plans.

Our image has taken a massive hit in employing Allardyce...it was a last resort from a desperate and frightened owner fearful we'd slip out of the PL. Allardyce is what he is: a short term manager who achieves a dour level of defensive competence and no more.

You know what Dave, you know my opinion on Allardyce, he should be nowhere near our club, he wasn't the answer and still isnt.

I do however, believe the club doesnt have the forsight to have brought him in just for the 6 months, I think he'll be given the 18months and will only be sacked if we are languishing next season.

Which is absolutely terrifying me, a summer of spending with Allardyce at the helm right now sounds horrific with what we will be left with moving forward.

Of course, this wouldn't be a problem if we had a clear direction of what the clubs identity was, and recruitment and direction was in association with that rather who the manager is at that time.

 

[Lowste]

We won’t be anywhere near the European Spots with Brexit Sam at the helm

The league is that bad, I wouldn't be so confident
We are 7 puts off Burnley with half the season to go, and surely they will hit a bumpy patch

We just need a short sharp run of games we win, and we are back challenging

European place is wide open

 

[chazzle_dazzle]

The league is that bad, I wouldn't be so confident
We are 7 puts off Burnley with half the season to go, and surely they will hit a bumpy patch

We just need a short sharp run of games we win, and we are back challenging

European place is wide open

While I love a good European tour and would happily be in the Europa every year - the state this squad is in right now I would want to be as far away from the extra games as possible.

We aren't even equipped for 1 game a week right now the squad is that much of a shambles.

Luckily, I agree with the other poster - I will be absolutely gobsmacked is El Hugio Samuel gets us anywhere near the Europe places.