Are we to blame

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chicoazul said:
Is their environment more supportive than Goodison Park? Say it.
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Yup, but we also have an insatiable desire for reality and have a difficult time suffering fools gladly...and that generally doesn't mix well with the field of entertainment. Reds love a magician, blues love a scientist.

Something like that, anyhow...in my Yankee doodle opinion.
 

Osamabindiesel said:
I'll give you that Lukaku leaving wasn't the fault of our fans. They still behaved disgustingly towards him though.
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That post was about Stones.

The fans didn't treat Lukaku disgustingly. The week he told us he was getting off the entire Gwladys to a man cheered his name and gave him a standing ovation. Hull at home 4-0. It was sincere, he clearly appreciated it.
 
Papa Shango said:
Walton Hall Park is a wasteland. It didn't happen anyway. So you are saying that our club does not have a record in the community to be proud of then?

You are telling me to get a grip? You are the one dressing up like a clown and booking planes to fly stupid messages nobody can read anyway*.

Nobody forces you to go. You are going on a march to demand action from a past time that you choose to partake in where the end result has not even been THAT bad anyway. Imagine being a Leyton Orient or a Blackpool fan watching our fans march because we came 6th or whatever. Its laughable.

(*Yes I realize it was not you directly...)
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Walton Hall park has been deliberately been allowed to run down mate.

Intially for the prospect of the new ground and now for houses.

Blames on them for that one.
 

Osamabindiesel said:
And guys- does it really matter if a player talks about leaving? If they perform on the field, does it really matter? If they frown on the pitch but score 25 goals, does it really matter?
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Unless he kisses the badge and gets an Ev tattoo then the angry and insecure will never take to him.

They even made Barkley laser off his Ev badge as they abused him that much.

Well in lads. TERN ROSS.
 
Papa Shango said:
Walton Hall Park is a wasteland. It didn't happen anyway. So you are saying that our club does not have a record in the community to be proud of then?

You are telling me to get a grip? You are the one dressing up like a clown and booking planes to fly stupid messages nobody can read anyway*.

Nobody forces you to go. You are going on a march to demand action from a past time that you choose to partake in where the end result has not even been THAT bad anyway. Imagine being a Leyton Orient or a Blackpool fan watching our fans march because we came 6th or whatever. Its laughable.

(*Yes I realize it was not you directly...)
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A wasteland? No it isn't. It has a Sports Centre with pitches that I used to play on constantly throughout the summers.

Nowhere did I say I wasn't proud of the community work Everton do, but I don't dream of winning the Community award, I dream of Everton winning the league and cups. We are currently in the worst trophyless period in our history, and Kenwright is a major factor in this.

We wasn't marching because we were finishing 6th, we were marching because of numerous reasons, take your pick: 3 stadium failures, lies to the fans regarding the stadium failures, lack of investment in the club, FSF, among numerous others that I am probably forgetting.

He is a stain on this club. Sooner he is out, the sooner things may change.
 
Papa Shango said:
It's absolutely serious.

I have no time for those who think that we should go on marches or fly planes demanding someone resigns because we are not Barcelona.

People only ever focus on the stuff on the pitch which has actually generally been fine anyway, not great or anything don't get me wrong, but fine, but with clubs going to the wall all the time or decimating the communities around them (our friends over the park for example) I see zero reason to be that annoyed with our lot that people want to do such ridiculous things. Bigger picture and all that.
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Fair to say I never want a pint with you.

For me your attitude is probably best suited at a club like Salford or something like that.

Why can’t we demand better? So because ETIC is fantastic we shouldn’t complain.

Dear god.
 

tim cahill said:
We're in bad form but the sky isn't falling. Kenwright has always tried to do his best for the club and Moshiri is as well. They're not perfect but we could do far worse.

Not adequately replacing Rom could go down as one of the most stupid decisions ever though.
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Yeah I agree mate, we could have had the Venkys, don't people understand, wish they'd just shut up and be happy.
 
Osamabindiesel said:
And guys- does it really matter if a player talks about leaving? If they perform on the field, does it really matter? If they frown on the pitch but score 25 goals, does it really matter?
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In every other industry you would be welcomed for being ambitious as long as you got on with your job and did it well. Top talent will always be looking to improve themselves.
 
Papa Shango said:
Agreed, didn't help that we all kind of knew that they would score again though.

There is no fight from anyone these days.
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True, but we can't just blame the team being crap because the atmosphere has been dead for years now apart from the odd game here and there. Even when we play well it's been rubbish. We badly need that singing section, let all snobs and hipsters laugh as say it's cringey but somthing has to be done about the lack of atmosphere because it's embarrassing.
 

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