Ronald Koeman discussion

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Number_25 said:
Just when we've begun to look as if we're about to turn a corner...

Anyhow, I've had time to stew over it - we need to stick with him. It's a bit tiresome seeing our supporters singling out Ronald as the main problem behind our recent troubles.

Don't get me wrong, he's not blameless - but he certainly isn't the root cause of the issues we currently have.

First of all, injuries have killed what width we had. Bolasie and Coleman offer not only pace, but experience in a side that lacks balance and direction. Koeman could do very little about that.

What needs to happen is that we, the supporters, get behind our team and try and help them get going. I was at Goodison yesterday, and the place was like a library - and understandably so. Like the rest of us, I bought into the belief that we'll be competing with the very top this season - but alas reality bites.

We need to get the place going again, and help build confidence. The amount of abuse thrown at Martina yesterday from where I was sat was thoroughly undeserved, and it was obvious that it had its implications on the rest of the

Give him time.
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Except we are even worse away from home and we’re last season... blaming the fans may be super cool but it clearly isn’t where the problems lie.
 


Why was he on a golfing holiday on transfer deadline day? That's the thing that really grinds my gears. We needed so many players. How can you be allowed to, and as a professional why would you want to, just take a holiday on one of the most important days of the season?

By contrast, Pochettino was signing Llorente on deadline day. A player we badly could have done with in every game this season.
 
zandvoort blue said:
To some extent, Moshiri is right.
From his seat, I guess the only truly unexpected result so far is Burnley 0-1 at home

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We've beaten teams like Sunderland and Bournemouth in games we would have been expected to. We did well for 80 minutes (ok, against 10 men who were all over us) against City. And that has served to paper over obvious cracks in the past couple of weeks.
Many expected August and September to be grim, and its proven so - tonked by Spurs at home, Manu and Chelsea away.
Atalanta away, Limassol and Burnley yesterday at home were rubbish, and that's coloured our view, since (with blue-tinted specs on) we would normally be expected to edge those games. Burnley is really the only unexpected loss this year.
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What an incredible post.

And even if MoshirI, and yourself it seems, was expecting defeat in certain games, was he expecting the absolute bending over that occurred in them?

Is that acceptable to him?

The mask is really slipping on this fellow now.

Although he mouths platitudes about Everton being ambitious and hungry to compete at the top table and how the fans "deserve" a winning team, it seems to me he is another "know your place" merchant whom is happy enough getting by in mid table so as to keep the Sky millions coming in.

Him and Koeman are made for each other.
 

Eggs said:
...I think that's putting the cart before the horse, in that it takes performance to generate atmosphere. I actually think the crowd have been patient given what has been served up this season.

I also think tactics and formation are down to the manager. For me, the lack of width is more of a defensive problem. Giggs and Beckham set the standard of wide players who work the length of the pitch, forming defensive and attacking partnerships with their full backs. Koeman doesn't appear to want conventional wide players (Lookman and Mirallas have been at his disposal), which might be ok when you have the likes of Vlasic and Sigurdsson centrally supporting the striker.

The problem occurs when the opposition have the ball. Neither player yesterday regularly worked the defensive third. For their goal you will see Vlasic toiling and on other occasions you will see him watching. It's the managers tactics that are creating a void on either side of the pitch. In one of the European away games somebody commented that an opposition full back ran 20 yards with no Everton player in sight. It's because we have a defensive chasm on either flank.

Injuries don't mean you still can't set your team up to be hard to beat. I think we were fortunate Burnley didn't exploit the weakness more.
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Khalekan said:
What an incredible post.

And even if MoshirI, and yourself it seems, was expecting defeat in certain games, was he expecting the absolute bending over that occurred in them?

Is that acceptable to him?

The mask is really slipping on this fellow now.

Although he mouths platitudes about Everton being ambitious and hungry to compete at the top table and how the fans "deserve" a winning team, it seems to me he is another "know your place" merchant whom is happy enough getting by in mid table so as to keep the Sky millions coming in.

Him and Koeman are made for each other.
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This nails it, that is his business model, remaining in the premier league is his definition of success.
 

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